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Old 02-15-2016, 09:19 PM   #29
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Aw, now you had to go bring physics into it....

IDK - maybe. I guess it would depend on which WD hitch you decide to go with, and the different heights between the loaded and unloaded tongue; i.e. how much you have to raise or lower the rig to line up with the receiver. Easy enough to try, I guess. I have not weighed my Equalizer/AirSafe combo, but it is not light, and definitely a 2 person job to put in the receiver and take out. My wife and I can get it done. Since the Ram Heavy Duty trucks come with 2.5" receivers and my AirSafe Class VI has a 2" shank I ended up having the Ram 2" - 2.5" adapter sleeve welded onto the AirSafe shank - there was too much slack before. So far, we have removed the hitch combo and placed it in a plastic bag on some wooden chocks behind the trailer when we camp. If I was going to be boondocking or in an unknown campground, I'd put it in the back of my truck to secure it. There's $2400 of hitch there, and my rig cannot roll one inch without it...
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:59 PM   #30
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The only popped rivets I have ever seen were on a 34' being towed by an older 1 ton Dodge.


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Old 02-15-2016, 10:22 PM   #31
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Zane, are you actually in possession of the Classic Airstream and the Ram 2500? How did you bring it home without a hitch?

Or are you still in the research mode, specifics matter.
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:31 PM   #32
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In possession of the Ram but Classic is on order.

Now the more I look into it, I don't think I could get the AirSafe with WD bracket and WD setup low enough for my Airstream.

Classic owners manual says "level" ball height is 17.5". The center of my truck's receiver is 22" off the ground! I can't figure out a way to get the AirSafe and any WD bracket/setup to drop that much.

I know I can drop that much with the 3P, maybe I'll just say screw it and get that lol. Daddy want's a soft ride though. At least my truck has coils on all four.
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:38 PM   #33
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What is the wheelbase of your Ram?
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:48 PM   #34
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What percent of steering axle weight restoration does your Ram Owners Manual recommend when using a weight distribution hitch?
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:51 PM   #35
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Will your Ram have any aftermarket suspension lift kits installed, or wheel/tire changes?
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:01 PM   #36
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I'll pull up those numbers tomorrow.

Oh, this is interesting! Instead of an air bag, uses torsion bars like the Airstream axles:

https://www.genyhitch.com/store/96

Look's like I could get that to work with the ProPride 3P. So the best Sway control with some shock absorption. (Although i don't think the shock absorption would be as good as the AirSafe).
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Old 02-15-2016, 11:28 PM   #37
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If you are going to load the back of the trailer heavy, you might better get the ProPride.

IMHO more tongue weight is not near the safety threat as more weight behind the axles.


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Old 02-16-2016, 03:05 AM   #38
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I'll pull up those numbers tomorrow.

Oh, this is interesting! Instead of an air bag, uses torsion bars like the Airstream axles:

https://www.genyhitch.com/store/96

Look's like I could get that to work with the ProPride 3P. So the best Sway control with some shock absorption. (Although i don't think the shock absorption would be as good as the AirSafe).

Hi, this is a very interesting design, but in the video, I see a lot of side to side movement which I wouldn't like.
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Old 02-16-2016, 05:46 AM   #39
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We have towed for 40+ years. We ran Reese for most of those years. We had sway and I was never in love with it. We bought a new 30' FC and a new F350 Diesel. The dealer would install anything I wanted but they recommended Equalizer. I'm always game for new (to me) things so we went with Equalizer. Several small trips last season and then a 10,000 mile trip from Pittsburgh to the Pacific Coast back thru NV, UT etc and then home.

No sway, no issues, very stable, not one popped rivet. Whe we towed another 30' FC with an F250 we had nine popped rivets in a 4,000 mile trip using a Reese set up. We had some slop so I now use a 2-1/2" shank instead of a 2" with a spacer with 1,000 pound bars. We do not have the option to balance the load the way it should as we have factory recliners up front with zero storage except in overhead cabinets, so I don't worry about it.

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Hi, this is a very interesting design, but in the video, I see a lot of side to side movement which I wouldn't like.

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Built in side to side...not so good.

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Old 02-16-2016, 06:19 PM   #41
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I think the Gen-Y was moving side to side at the shank, not the arms. Just need to shim the shank just like any other hitch.

I couldn't find anything in the manual related to steering axle weight while towing.

No aftermarket lift kit or anything, the truck will remain stock. It is already fairly high from the factory, being a 2500 Power Wagon.

Wheelbase is 149".

Got an email back from Gen-Y.

The 1205 (2" shank) weighs 75 lbs and the 1305 (2.5" shank) weighs 95 lbs. Definitely beefy units. Considering that a Gen-Y and a ProPride would add ~300 lbs to the hitch area, that is a bit excessive.

I may just go with the ProPride P3 alone.

Is there anything out there comparable to the P3 or Hensley (force projection) but doesn't weigh as much?

Also, what security options are there for a P3? How do you lock this baby up so the trailer can't be stolen.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:38 PM   #42
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Thoughts on Hitches for my rig.

I remove the ProPride stinger from the truck and store it separately from the trailer. There are several threads on the site about securing trailers. Mine is locked in a neighbors yard behind a steel gate.

I have other security measures in place that would get this thread locked if we discuss them...😄

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