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Old 08-22-2013, 01:25 PM   #15
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Oh I see...sway isn't oscillation. Then it stands to reason that oscillation isn't sway.

I see no mention of oscillation in Fords statement. TV yaw=trailer sway.
Maybe they need to check this thread and be educated....like me.

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Old 08-22-2013, 02:58 PM   #16
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What brand and model weight distribution hitch do you use? What is weighting rating of the bars?
I finally have some answers! We have an Equal-i-zer 90-00-1000 (1000 lg max loaded tongue / 10,000 lb max loaded trailer weight.

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Check the tow capacity of your truck. You are towing a 9000# trailer with an F-150?
Our Ford F150 is an EcoBoost with a towing capactity of 11,200 lbs.

We're planning on weighing our trailer tomorrow, or definitely before we take it out again.

Where is the best place to take it to be weighed? What about those weigh stations we see alongside the freeway?

Thanks again everyone for your input. I do believe it was a slight sway caused by a rut in the freeway. I-405 is in bad shape, we'll have to keep that in mind.

Thank you!!
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:29 PM   #17
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Time2play - google "cat scales" and anything you see not related to kittens should've if some help :-)

Those weigh stations you see on the highway aren't always open and when they are, troopers are usually using them to spot check commercial truckers. Many truck stops have cat scales and you can weigh your trailer there. There are several threads in the forums in this topic (I think Bob provided one direct link). I love weighing the trailer (I know - geeky) but it helps me understand how subtle changes over time can make a big difference.

Bob and Doug - re: sway/oscillation - I understood Doug to be saying that the truck detected a "sway" motion and put the electronics in to gear so that initial sway wouldn't "echo" left and right multiple times (I.e., oscillate).

Do I understand that right and if so, it seems Bob is reacting to the words, not the concept - what are the correct terms (I should have searched this first - I can feel it coming...). :-)
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:36 PM   #18
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there is a scale in Lakewood on South Tacoma Way south of 512 close to the old Costco
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:53 PM   #19
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I do know that in sway situation applying tv brakes instead of trailer brakes will cause more sway then danger, apply power to tv while manually applying brakes on trailer, do not panic it has happened to me more than once as I pull many kinds of trailers not always set up properly but not by me but it was mandatory to move. One accident in over 40 yrs. towing, when hitch broke because of improper design, and hitch manf. absorbed all costs, and redesigned the part that broke. Bill
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:10 PM   #20
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I get a tiny bit of sway with my Equalizer hitch, 25 foot Safari and diesel Excursion when an 18 wheeler or Greyhound passes me at 75 mph when there is a stiff cross wind. I have a small trailer and a big truck.
The Equalizer is o.k. for normal towing but if I were to upgrade to a big trailer at or near my vehicles towing capacity, I would upgrade to a premium hitch such as a Hensley or ProPride. Any sway is too much. I would want my hitch to suppress the sway and not let it get bad enough so the vehicle corrects it. I don't want to drive at 55 mph because I am nervous about sway.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:27 PM   #21
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I get a tiny bit of sway with my Equalizer hitch, 25 foot Safari and diesel Excursion when an 18 wheeler or Greyhound passes me at 75 mph when there is a stiff cross wind. I have a small trailer and a big truck.
The Equalizer is o.k. for normal towing but if I were to upgrade to a big trailer at or near my vehicles towing capacity, I would upgrade to a premium hitch such as a Hensley or ProPride. Any sway is too much. I would want my hitch to suppress the sway and not let it get bad enough so the vehicle corrects it. I don't want to drive at 55 mph because I am nervous about sway.
I use early model of Reese dual cam not the new one, I have 31ft A.S. pull with 2500 [3/4] chev. pickup I do not get sway plus I do not go 55mph more like 70 unless conditions will not allow, also I find that at 55mph A.S. does not handle properly to suit me. Bill
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:02 PM   #22
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Bob and Doug - re: sway/oscillation - I understood Doug to be saying that the truck detected a "sway" motion and put the electronics in to gear so that initial sway wouldn't "echo" left and right multiple times (I.e., oscillate).

Do I understand that right and if so, it seems Bob is reacting to the words, not the concept - what are the correct terms (I should have searched this first - I can feel it coming...). :-)
That's right. Though it is sway whether the trailer just goes to the side once then straightens out or keeps swaying or oscillating.

You could think of sway control compared to shocks on a car. With a car if you bounce it and it stops bouncing almost immediately the shocks are fine and safe, if you took the shocks off and bounced the car it would keep bouncing for a while and be dangerous to drive.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:30 PM   #23
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There are so many variables when you feel instability........tire pressure...correct tires...correct tow vehicle......wheelbase...hitch, transfer bars and correct towing height....condition of road and what is passing you . I start with the simple things and progressively move up the line...tires tire pressures hitch correct height correct transfer bars and sway control system tow vehicle. I pulled for years with a DRW 3500 series truck, rock solid under all conditions. I just sold this and purchased a SWR 2500 truck very solid but not rock solid. When you are traveling say 60 mph and a big truck passes you doing 75 the trailer and tow vehicle are put through first a push then when the truck goes by you the whole unit seems to be sucked in behind the truck, now when you are on grooved pavement and not correctly hitched or you tires are a little soft or your tow vehicle is marginal with the GVWR rating, well you get the picture. The same happens towing on a road with tire ruts. Start simple and move up the line systematically. A trailer generally follows in a little different track than a truck, a trailer could be running in a rut and the truck not in a rut so the trailer is trying to pull the truck laterally. Find the best speed between 55 and 62 and don't get in a hurry....enjoy
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Thanks everyone again for all your help. My husband and I are seriously thinking of buying a Hensley Arrow hitch. From what I understand, we have to buy directly from the Hensley company and they cost about $3,000. Wow! But our top priority is safety, and sometimes you have to pay extra for peace of mind.

I'm curious...how difficult is it to install the hitch? Or should I have our local Airstream dealer install the hitch?
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Old 08-23-2013, 01:24 PM   #25
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Thanks everyone again for all your help. My husband and I are seriously thinking of buying a Hensley Arrow hitch. From what I understand, we have to buy directly from the Hensley company and they cost about $3,000. Wow! But our top priority is safety, and sometimes you have to pay extra for peace of mind.

I'm curious...how difficult is it to install the hitch? Or should I have our local Airstream dealer install the hitch?
You can buy a ProPride for about $500 less, and it's an easy bolt-on installation. It's an updated, improved version of the Hensley, redesigned by Hensley himself.

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Old 08-23-2013, 02:03 PM   #26
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Thanks Doug, you're right. We're considering the ProPride too. I like the idea that it's easier to install.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:23 AM   #27
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I bought a factory-refurbished Hensley for a pretty good discount and have been satisfied. I installed it myself and recommend that you try to do so too. It teaches you a lot about how it works and how to maintain it.

Get a handy friend and follow the directions. It will involve drilling into the a-frame, so gather your courage, measure twice and drill once.

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Old 08-26-2013, 12:51 PM   #28
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Drilling holes into the A-frame is the main reason I decided to get a ProPride.

I don't like the idea of drilling holes of any sort into a very critical part of the tow system...YMMV
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