Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-31-2017, 08:08 AM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
2001 30' Limited
1973 31' Sovereign
Livingston , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 26
Steep pitch, long trailer, reverse

Howdy!

Been haulin our 30 footer around the country for a year and a half and have gotten her parked in some pretty tricky spots without too much fuss.

Now, we're gonna slow down for a minute and park her at a house we're renting for the year. It's in the city and it'll be her tightest fit yet. I'll tell ya, some of the boondocking spots we got to were a heck of a lot easier than towing through town.

The road to get to the house is fairly flat but the house is up a small hill. The driveway is short but very steep for about 15 feet before it levels out to flat driveway.

I'm worried the pitch of the driveway is too steep and I'll bottom out before the back wheels hit the incline. There's about 9 feet from the bottom of the trailer rear to the back tire. I've been working through ways to get around it but nothing makes me feel very confident. I definitely bottomed out at sketchy gas stations and campgrounds in the past.

I've thought up makeshift ramps, but they'd need to be pretty long and extremely sturdy. My AS is a heavy one. It has a slide out and weighs close to 10k. I've thought about inching along with multiple sets on lynx levelers but that seems annoying as all get out and not a sure thing.

The TV is up for the job I think. 6.7L F250 and has 4-Low. It hauled us over and out on Teton Pass without much complaining. It's also worth mentioning I have a ProPride hitch and it rides a little low. I've scraped at that junction several times as well.

Just hoping someone can suggest a foolproof approach, definitely hoping to get this trailer in and out a few times this year.
__________________

GooseMobile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 11:24 AM   #2
4 Rivet Member
 
mikeinca's Avatar
 
2018 30' Classic
Santa Rosa , California
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 420
Short of re-contouring the driveway, something you clearly don't want to do with a rental property, I think you've already considered the two most reasonable alternatives for getting your trailer up the slope. I had a very similar problem at our house with a 25' FC.

The first time I brought it home we used Lynx levelers which worked but, as you suspect, it was a royal PITA. After that I built ramps out of 2x12's supported by 2x12's crosswise underneath, 24" wide by 8' long. I made each ramp in two sections so they would be more manageable. They filled in the approximately 4" deep "swale" in my driveway and allowed me to get the trailer up to the house without scraping. They handled the load of my AS without visible strain but as you point out your trailer is heavier and you might have a deeper dip to bridge. Still, I think you could mitigate that by building up the 2x12 supports underneath the ramps. They will be heavy, however; I estimate the 4' long sections that make up each of my ramps to weigh about 65 lbs each and more support would mean more weight.

Wish I had other suggestions to make. I thought about solutions to this problem for quite a while and that is what I came up with. Ultimately, because we traded in the 25 footer for a 30' Classic, I bit the bullet and had the driveway redone. No more problems. Good luck with your situation.
__________________

__________________
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

2018 30' Classic Twin
2017 F250 4x4 6.7 max tow Platinum
200W portable solar
240Ah LifePo4 upgrade
mikeinca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 11:56 AM   #3
.-. -...
 
Adventure.AS's Avatar

 
2017 25' International
Port Dover , ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,513
On my rig if I remove the Eaz-Lift WD bars then the TV rear sags, thus nose of the TT will go down and the rear end of the TT will rise several inches.
__________________
Ray B.

“One test is worth a thousand 'expert' opinions”
Sign at Boeing headquarters, posted by test pilot Alvin “Tex” Johnston, c1948
Adventure.AS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 12:25 PM   #4
Slide Out Society #001
 
GCinSC2's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere , South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,777
Any chance for a few pic's of the approach etc?
__________________
S/OS #001
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Carslile Actuator, Equal-i-zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook.
GCinSC2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 12:31 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
Mollysdad's Avatar
 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa , Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,227
Front mounted hitch so you can push the trailer up the incline?
If the ball is low you'll have more clearance at the rear bumper.
The ProPride hitch might have to come off for the parking.
Mollysdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 01:02 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville , Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,760
Blog Entries: 1
Of course take loose the wd bars and just back it um on the ball. My approach would be to drop some appropriate length 2x10 or 2x12 in the deep part of the dip and just let them bend down to the ground when I backed on them. No need for a ramp. You just need to elevate the rear wheels some. Several layers of 2x should help. Look at where the wheels will be when the back hits and work it out from there. And think about the fact that you will need to get it back out eventually so make a little sketch of what worked and keep the lumber
Bill M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 01:14 PM   #7
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,188
Images: 2
piling up 2x4 in the low part of the driveway will help.. keeping the trailer bow as low as possible... run the BAL jacks all the way down then when trailer wheels are starting to climb out of the ravine, adjust the BAL jacks up so they don't scrape the ground...

We needed a 10' transition across our driveway entrance.. over 12" drop at center. Built 2x4 ramps. Side by side, construction glue between each and 'thru' bolted with 'all thread'... let is dry for a few days... make it half again as wide as you need. Cut angles on both ends to fit the 'slope' and help tires climb up on the ramp.

Oh.. turn off the trailer brakes will ya?

Get a spotter with a walkie talkie to tell you when the frame is about to drag...

you can toss a couple 2x4 on top of the ramp if you need just a LIIIIITttle more clearance on the trailer stern...
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 01:17 PM   #8
Slide Out Society #001
 
GCinSC2's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere , South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,777
Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf View Post
piling up 2x4 in the low part of the driveway will help.. keeping the trailer bow as low as possible... run the BAL jacks all the way down then when trailer wheels are starting to climb out of the ravine, adjust the BAL jacks up so they don't scrape the ground...

We needed a 10' transition across our driveway entrance.. over 12" drop at center. Built 2x4 ramps. Side by side, construction glue between each and 'thru' bolted with 'all thread'... let is dry for a few days... make it half again as wide as you need. Cut angles on both ends to fit the 'slope' and help tires climb up on the ramp.

Oh.. turn off the trailer brakes will ya?

Get a spotter with a walkie talkie to tell you when the frame is about to drag...

you can toss a couple 2x4 on top of the ramp if you need just a LIIIIITttle more clearance on the trailer stern...
That smells a bit like been there done that info. Fill in the valley's.
__________________
S/OS #001
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Carslile Actuator, Equal-i-zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook.
GCinSC2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2017, 02:03 PM   #9
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,188
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2 View Post
That smells a bit like been there done that info. Fill in the valley's.
Yessirree... I have pics but do not have authority to post here... so, ping if anyone wants the visual. It is freaky.
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 10:58 AM   #10
3 Rivet Member
 
1976 31' Excella 500
Chappell Hill , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 191
Images: 2
I put a lift kit on my 31'. With the new axles I've raised it 8 1/2". Stopped my tail dragging on inclines.
tbashin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 11:04 AM   #11
3 Rivet Member
 
OttawaValleyGuy's Avatar
 
1991 35' Airstream 350
Barry's Bay , Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 152
Put a pair of swivel casters on the back frame section. I
__________________
Howard and Ann Schutt
OttawaValleyGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 11:13 AM   #12
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,188
Images: 2
Don't do it Ethel.... too late..?

Quote:
Originally Posted by OttawaValleyGuy View Post
Put a pair of swivel casters on the back frame section. I
Great Idea... but will damage your AS shell if you hit too hard...or too heavy..

Plenty of 'oops' around the website to see that. If you 'lift' the rear of the AS at the end like that, it pushes up on the shell. This MAY buckle the aluminum and MAY pop rivets where the aluminum is connected to the C-channel.

It's your baby... no one's going to turn you in to AS protection services... you will see the problem soon enough.
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 11:55 AM   #13
Rivet Master

 
2007 22' International CCD
Corona , California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 6,407
No, in my experience dragging the skid on one side is guaranteed to put a nice wrinkle in the skin on the corner....I was lucky and did not pop rivets or open the seams. Note to self: stay closer to the middle of the driveway at son’s house...
__________________
Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
rmkrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2018, 12:30 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,051
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum View Post
No, in my experience dragging the skid on one side is guaranteed to put a nice wrinkle in the skin on the corner....I was lucky and did not pop rivets or open the seams. Note to self: stay closer to the middle of the driveway at son’s house...
Not guaranteed, but a risk. I have dragged one side several times, but when I make contact with the skid plate, I get out and look. If the wheels are in the trough , I continue. If not, i back out and find a new angle or abort the access. No wrinkling skins, but did pop one rear access door frame rivet.
__________________

__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Long long long trip Foiled Again Full-Timing, Winter Living & Workamping 39 03-24-2016 10:27 AM
245 degree transmission oil on long steep grades ashe Towing, Tow Vehicles & Hitches 29 02-05-2012 06:18 AM
high pitch whining noise.. safari25-05 Tow Vehicles 13 03-21-2008 07:39 PM
How steep is too steep? Tin Diesel Towing, Tow Vehicles & Hitches 14 02-12-2007 01:03 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.