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Old 09-06-2014, 07:33 AM   #99
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End of debate. I win.
The combo I like in the photo is the yellow VW 181& trailer in the background.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:10 AM   #100
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Don't tell that to all the 3/4 ton guys who swear the big heavy trucks are what have the true advantage when slowing down on a steep grades.
I guess the gravel truck drivers should just use a Chrysler 300 and just add a trailer to tow. There is something called the "Law of diminishing returns" and I certainly would rather have a vehicle rated to TOW vs a vehicle rated to haul people. Like Forest Gump said "Stupid is as Stupid does".
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:19 AM   #101
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In my experience, If the trailer brakes are right, they do the stopping of the trailer, and in normal stops, a portion of the TV stopping as well.

In other words, if the trailer brakes are right, the trailer never pushes the TV, uphill, downhill, or level ground.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:52 AM   #102
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I guess the gravel truck drivers should just use a Chrysler 300 and just add a trailer to tow. There is something called the "Law of diminishing returns" and I certainly would rather have a vehicle rated to TOW vs a vehicle rated to haul people. Like Forest Gump said "Stupid is as Stupid does".
Forest Gump is a pretty smart man! Maybe we could convince him to join Air Forums!

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Old 09-06-2014, 11:23 AM   #103
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A towing expert has been towing Airstreams with Chrysler 300's for years and reports his results:

Chrysler's 300 Sedan - RV Lifestyle Magazine
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:59 PM   #104
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That is a good article Doug. You can't beat real life experiences.
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Here is another real life experience by one of the forum members:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...es-116384.html
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A towing expert has been towing Airstreams with Chrysler 300's for years and reports his results:

Chrysler's 300 Sedan - RV Lifestyle Magazine
Are they towing empty Airstreams? Just curious? I mean that's awesome. But what about someone who is full timing? With passengers? Full LP tanks, fresh water? Food in the fridge? I'm just curious since none of that info is in this article.
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Here is another real life experience by one of the forum members:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...es-116384.html
Actually his towing experience was very good but was not able get a rather lousy dealership to fix an overheating engine on a used car that was probably faulty from when he got it. To his credit he gave it up early.
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Old 09-06-2014, 03:17 PM   #108
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Are they towing empty Airstreams? Just curious? I mean that's awesome. But what about someone who is full timing? With passengers? Full LP tanks, fresh water? Food in the fridge? I'm just curious since none of that info is in this article.
Not really that surprising. You and I are towing mid-to-large size Airstreams with Ram 1500's that don't have a lot more power but weigh over 1,000# more than the Chrysler 300. And it has the advantage of full independent suspension and lower center of gravity for much better stability.

Our 5.7 and 6-speed trans work pretty good, but I sure would like the 8-speed to keep in an ideal power/economy range on different grades and wind conditions.
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I think the point Andrew Thomson makes is you will benefit from considering all the elements that make up a good, stable towing vehicle. Including hitch and trailer design/setup. As well as how that vehicle performs for you when not towing. Bulk of tow vehicle isn't one of them, but the point is lost to those who insist bigger is better just because it is.
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Are they towing empty Airstreams? Just curious? I mean that's awesome. But what about someone who is full timing? With passengers? Full LP tanks, fresh water? Food in the fridge? I'm just curious since none of that info is in this article.
They were on vacation with their families so the Airstreams will have been loaded pretty much as anyone else would load them.
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A towing expert has been towing Airstreams with Chrysler 300's for years and reports his results:

Chrysler's 300 Sedan - RV Lifestyle Magazine
Wasn't that an overheating engine issue? Wasn't it something that afflicted certain Chryslers whether towing or not? The article in RV Life made no mention of engine issues.
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The Chrysler 300 is grossly-undersized for that load. It doesn't matter what tweaks you make to it, unless you sprinkle 700+ lbs. of fairy dust onto it, you'll still have a grossly-undersized tow vehicle.

Just because you CAN tow with it doesn't mean that you should. Just because you've logged 100,000 miles with it doesn't mean that it is a safe combination to tow.

When I see a miraculous image of Jesus in my morning toast, it doesn't mean that he is real. The onus for proving the legitimacy of these mods lies with those who recommend them. Where is the statistical evidence? Why are there only a handful of happy owners who tout the divine nature of this solution?

The article above claims that an engineer from Chrysler said, "“There is not enough profit in a car like this to take a gamble on a tow rating.” To some that means that it can easily be modified to tow huge loads. To others that means that screwing with the towing capabilities is "a gamble."
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