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05-02-2018, 09:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Rear View Observation Cameras
I have read through the site (using Google search) for reviews of the different camera systems and also the on-line reviews. I have been using Fred’s system with an iPhone, but it has been very unreliable, and I want to replace it.
There are two systems out there that I have read several reviews on: The Furrion Observation Camera FOS48TAPK-BL and the Yoyager WVOS541. Both cameras generally get good reviews, however, both products seem to have the same issue. The cameras tend to lose reception/cut-out at higher highway speeds (over 50 mph).
I have two main questions:
1. For those of you that own one of these systems, have you had the same experience with these units cutting out? Would you buy the camera again? If not, what would you replace it with?
2. Are there other manufacturers with products that do not exhibit these issues that I should consider purchasing?
Thanks for any advise you can provide.
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DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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05-02-2018, 09:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 26' Flying Cloud
St. Marys
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 30
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We have the factory installed Voyager 511 wireless that has never dropped connection regardless of mph.
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05-02-2018, 09:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6,408
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Hardwired, dedicated 7” display.. never had a fallout.
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Channing
WBCCI# 30676
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05-02-2018, 09:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Point Pleasant
, New Jersey
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 36
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Voyager #2nd edition I believe.
I will have to check the box.
I have used for two years and have some intermittent loss of signal.
But it is also great because you will know immediately if your 7 pin starts acting up which mine did on a trip to South Carolina (little dirt on the connection).
I would buy it again for sure.
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05-02-2018, 09:43 PM
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 956
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Factory system here. Have never lost signal.
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05-03-2018, 04:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Had the Voyager installed at the factory a few years ago. 27FB and 3/4T truck with short bed and PP hitch. Got to be 40+' from camera antenna to receiver on windshield. Never a drop out.
There are hard wired versions of some cameras that I guess won't drop out.
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05-03-2018, 08:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Thank you each for your responses!!
Any Furrion Observation Camera FOS48TAPK-BL users out there that can provide some feedback??
Thanks
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DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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05-03-2018, 08:42 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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Just as an FYI, I talked to the Voyager technical department this morning. The techie reported that he had not heard of problems due to speed, but they have very occasionally heard of problems with Airstreams (probably the aluminum skin blocking the signal). They do provide an extension antenna (at no cost) in these situations.
I got very straight-forward answers from the company. So far, Voyager is likely to get my order!
Any Furrion users want to chime in?
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DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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05-03-2018, 08:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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I use the Voyager. Makes an excellent rear view mirror and works at all speeds. Seems to mess up a bit if I get my phone too close but I could be wrong about that.
Changed the angle to see down the road. Still good for backing up too.
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Michelin 16” tires
Hensley Arrow hitch
Tow Vehicle: 2020 F-350 6.7L Diesel
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05-03-2018, 09:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,320
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The Garmin RV-770 GPS with optional wireless camera has been rock solid for us. That way there is one less screen kicking around. Camera is mounts at the rear, of course. I mounted the transmitted just forward of the AC unit and used the solar pre-wire to give it power.
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05-03-2018, 09:06 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Lincolnwood
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 312
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I have the voyager. No problems at all. so far it has been flawless.
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05-03-2018, 09:42 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Taos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 566
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I have a DIY system I put together with individual components from eBay (total cost $80 + $20 to have it wired). It works better than I expected to be honest but it does phase out on occasion - usually right when you need it! Speed has little to nothing to do with it (all the components are traveling together at the same speed and distance) my uneducated bet is it has more to do with RF interference. The commercial product systems like you are looking at probably have much better transmitter/receiver equipment to shield from other signals interfering with the wireless signal. Regardless - they are a joy to have both for lane changes and for backing the trailer into a spot.
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05-03-2018, 09:49 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 20' Flying Cloud
St Petersburg
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 174
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I have the Voyager WVOS541. No signal loss. Its "Wisight" proprietary technology is supposed to eliminate signal loss due to its dedication to the monitor. Seems to work.
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05-03-2018, 10:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Olympia
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 618
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I have used the hard-wired Rear View Safety system, whose camera I installed inside the trailer, looking out from the top of its rear window. It is less expensive than most others and has worked flawlessly, although it takes some time and effort to wire the camera, from the camera to the trailer's A-frame and then from the back of the truck to the dash.
https://www.rearviewsafety.com/safet...5th-wheel.html
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"Argentum": 2016 AS FC 27 FB
RIP "BigDog": M Harlequin Great Dane, 150 lb
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05-03-2018, 11:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,346
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I have the first system Fred sold. Worked great, the only problem was my iPhone getting too hot and causing drop outs. Keeping the phone by the air conditioning outlet solved that.
The original app it used has been discontinued, I found another but it's not quite as good. Speaking with the folks at Sharx (the camera Fred used) they said phones are being optimized for movies and games and not so much for their cameras anymore.
So I just bought a Voyager. Got the 7" screen and it was too huge. Exchanged if for the 4.3" and that is the perfect size for me. Cellphone size.
BTW, great price and service from rvcams.com
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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05-03-2018, 12:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2001 30' Classic S/O
Leander
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 189
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I'll second the Garmin bc30 camera and GPS. Rock solid. Existing screen on dash. No holes in TT skin. Inside mount with action camera mounts. Transmits 200 ft with transmitter on bed. Small hole in screen. We don't open rear window.
Trying an Android apps solution with old cell phone and truck wifi. All apps want internet access, so far it's a no go as truck doesn't have internet.
John
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05-03-2018, 04:34 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Lakeport
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 19
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Have the Furrion, F-150 SC and FC23FB, have never had a problem.
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05-03-2018, 07:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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I received a reply from Furrion technical support and I now have a better understanding of why the Furrion has signal interruptions at higher speeds. I am paraphrasing what he wrote. Furrion relies on the RF signal bouncing off of objects around the trailer to reach the receiver in the tow vehicle. At higher speeds, particularly in a flat terrain like an interstate road, there is not as many objects for the signal to bounce off of, so weaker signals are reaching the monitor. And, their processor speed is not as fast as they need to capture and process these weaker signals, so you get an intermittent picture on the screen. They are coming out with a new unit in July which will have a faster processor and a higher signal transmission strength.
Voyager already uses a faster processor and stronger transmitter, so they do not have this same issue as Furrion. If there are intermittences, it is due to interference from other devices interfering with the camera and does not happen on a regular basis.
From the good reviews here and the conversations with the techies, I am going with the Voyager WVOS541.
Thank you all for your help.
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DaveP
2004 Airstream Classic 28 "Willard"
2023 Ram 3500 4x4
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05-03-2018, 08:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Fitchburg
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 228
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Rearview Safety for me too. I have a camera on the AS license plate and the truck cap. Both perform flawlessly and the mic on the AS can be helpful. However, pulling the cables was hard and I spliced them which requires soldering and care to maintain the video wire shield. Even so I'm glad I did it because I tried wireless systems and found them unreliable
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05-03-2018, 09:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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BillfromWI, from your comments I get the impression that some of the cables have coax in them. Do you know if the coiled cable that goes from trailer to the truck has coax in it, by chance?
Where was the coax you spliced?
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Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
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