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Old 04-30-2015, 11:46 PM   #29
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If your truck is getting 18- 22 mpg towing a 28ft International you should have it bronzed and put in the Ford Museum
How are u calculating your fuel mileage???
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:01 AM   #30
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I think that a lot of people out there are using the vehicle's computer readouts for mileage and we know that they are as reliable as Airstream's Micropulse.


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Old 05-01-2015, 06:30 AM   #31
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Oil changes on my cummins are less than eighty dollars, so the price for the Eco diesel seems unreasonable. Twelve thousand seems a bit high. Oh I see you are canadian, must be really expensive to live up there. Jim
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:36 AM   #32
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Oil changes on my cummins are less than eighty dollars, so the price for the Eco diesel seems unreasonable. Twelve thousand seems a bit high. Oh I see you are canadian, must be really expensive to live up there. Jim
Morning Jim - Actually I said it costs $200.00 not 12,000....lol But that's okay it early! Boy 80 is sure cheep! It costs me almost that much for my wife little car here in Canada.
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200 really isn't totally out of line. I get a deal because I bought my truck there. Twelve thousand us a lot for the diesel option. Is the for the new Eco diesel? If so, I wonder if it is worth it? Peace,jim
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:18 AM   #34
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No that would be for a power stroke. I don't know what the eco diesel would be but I have heard its less.
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Effectively, the up charge on the Ram 2500 diesel is about $7000 over the 6.4 gas engine. For the Ford it's about $8000, and about $8500 for the Chevy. All 3/4 ton, of course.
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I used a 2500/Cummins Dodge in the 90's and got a reliable 20mpg loaded or not. While I am sure that the platform has changed substantially, it was a pretty good truck. I made the mistake of getting a '95, the first model year of the new layout, so there were just ridiculous problems but I can see from looking at later models that it seems they have worked out the bugs. The Cummins is an excellent power plant, no question about it. The DB6 just runs and runs. Keep the oil and air filter clean and it should give massive lifetime. Regarding the Dodge part, well, worry about the tranny, brakes, basically all the rest of the vehicle. I've been curious about the Chevy with their version of a diesel; no hard data available to me yet.
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Just returned from a 4000+ mile trip Big Sky, MT--Michigan--back to Big Sky and here are some recent Ecoboost mileage numbers. TV is Ford 2012, Lariat Supercab, 6 1/2' box 3.5 ECO, 3.73, 4x4, max tow, with leer cap, 2010 28' Int with weight dist hitch and about 1000 pounds in bed including cap. Trailer weight between 6400-6800 depending on water, propane and wife's stuff. Over 4147 miles with trailer averaged 11.4 based on Ford's computer Accutrack/Sway turned OFF. Drive 65-70 on Highway, but left Big Sky thru Yellowstone--Cody--and picked up I90 in Buffalo, went thru UP and took US2-MI28-US2 to Western ND and then cut down to I94. Lot's of mountains and of course numerous days into the wind. Took same truck with out trailer Big Sky to Billings (all downhill) wind behind me Friday at 70mph and got 20.6, returned Saturday slightly into wind and was at 18.1.. Truck has 45000 miles and has towed various trailers, about 30000 miles. With the 28' usually average between 11 and 12mpg. With a 21' around 14mpg. Always around 18-20 without trailer, very little "in city" driving. Thinking about the trying the new 2.7 Ecoboost. Has anyone tried the 2.7 with a 27-28' trailer in the mountains??
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Old 06-21-2015, 01:56 AM   #38
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Andrew_T has a fairly recent comment about the latest aluminum F150 s, including with EB engines. A post from about April.

But would himself be more likely to go with 5.0L V8. Good overall statements about the truck are made as concerns our interests. Makes the case quite well, although not intended as a debate end.

(Haven't figured out how to link using phone).

The weight reduction pretty well covers TW. A distinct advantage.
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Been shopping for a used 1/2 ton truck for many months to tow our 25' 1992 Excella. A month ago found a lovely used '13 F150 with 5.0L and less than 12,000 mi. on her. Too good to pass up. Was initially considering Ecoboost, but concerned about mileage when towing and other issues. Also considered RAM Hemi. RAM Ecodiesel way too expensive for me.

Anyway, the F150 is 2WD (gearing unknown) and I got 22 mpg (U.S.) on the highway from dealer calculated based on digital readout. So I was excited about what would happen under towing conditions. A couple weeks back we went camping and a few hundred miles round trip with some mixed driving, but mostly 60mph highway (5th gear) on level terrain. Readout said 14.5 mpg. When I filled up and did the calculation average for the trip… bingo exactly 14.5 mpg! Needless to say, I am pleased! The 5.0L handles the trailer with little effort.

Disclaimer, I learned to drive like a mileage champion with a 2000 Jetta TDi in which I got a personal best of 55 mpg and a ownership average of 50mpg.
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Were the highway miles, solo & towing, covered at the same travel speed (on cruise control)?

Because a 35% towing "penalty" doesn't look at all bad.

If it turns out you can make this closer kind of comparison (truck loaded as if for travel and weight as if TW applied; i.e., a big heavy load at tow speed on cruise) then we can see just what the percent turns out to be.

It's easy to be around 40 as a penalty (that's the default number), but closer to thirty is what I'd want to see pulling a medium A/S. It'd be my goal to see if I could do it, in other words.

I'm dismayed to see others over forty, but separating what is travel speed, etcetera, is harder when guessing.

It'd make a good comp for others also with these in mind:

Truck spec
Climate
Terrain
Scale weights

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I have a 2012 5.0 4wd with 3.55 gears and see just slightly lower mileage figures if I am running conservative speeds. Probably due to the 4wd. It's a really nice engine as well.
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Were the highway miles, solo & towing, covered at the same travel speed (on cruise control)?
I assume that this is addressed to me. When towing, it was 60 mph or under. When solo it was 70mph on highway. A better comparison would be solo at 60mph. I suspect the 22mpg would bump up a bit. But I did notice that instead of running in 5th while towing, if I let it run in 6th, I get a slight 3% improvement in mileage. But I would rather run with slightly more revs in 5th than in OD, which is used of course during non-towing.

Never used cruise control (CC) with either run. Unless on absolutely dead level ground, I can do better than any cruise control at reducing fuel consumption. That is because CC uses constant speed, which demands noticeably more fuel up a slight grade and reduces fuel going down. I tend to drive with constant throttle (i.e. constant fuel), which means I slow down slightly going up a grade and speed up going down, which gives me added momentum for going up the next hill. Also I can anticipate slowing down and try to coast as much as possible, which uses next to nothing in fuel.
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