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Old 01-22-2019, 10:28 PM   #29
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I would like to thank all you EcoDiesel owners that have posted your real world numbers and experience. It has been most enjoyable, well done!
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Old 01-23-2019, 06:40 AM   #30
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Good write up. Mine a 4 door is rated for a max tow of 8,800. I think this is a good number. In my experience 8k is about the practical max for a TT and the half ton platform due to suspension & axle ratings even with a good scaled setup regardless of some of the astronomical numbers they put with some 1/2 tons these days.

Vern - your real world experience speaks of vast common sense! Thanks for your input.
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Old 01-23-2019, 07:08 AM   #31
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For anybody with an ED who has a marginal towing experience but loves and wants to keep the truck. Tune tires & grill together helps a lot and is a reasonable investment where as switching to 3.92 isn't at least with a 4WD.

I run a little shorter 275/55/20 XL load tire such as comes on the the 2019 Ram & newer Fords & GMs at least. Its an incremental improvement in both stability and gearing. You can get a $50 box that corrects speedo/odometer for tire height but many don't bother as its still very close. Factory SLT grill & aftermarket grill are a direct swap.

GDE & PPEI both have full ECM level tunes so that they can keep factory safety parameters and re-tune it in a proper fashion. As opposed to just fooling some parameters with a piggy back tune. Both also have a turbo brake feature which is real beneficial towing in hilly terrain. Naturally their is still also warranty & government concerns to consider.
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Old 01-23-2019, 08:26 AM   #32
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For anybody with an ED who has a marginal towing experience but loves and wants to keep the truck. Tune tires & grill together helps a lot and is a reasonable investment where as switching to 3.92 isn't at least with a 4WD.

I run a little shorter 275/55/20 XL load tire such as comes on the the 2019 Ram & newer Fords & GMs at least. Its an incremental improvement in both stability and gearing. You can get a $50 box that corrects speedo/odometer for tire height but many don't bother as its still very close. Factory SLT grill & aftermarket grill are a direct swap.

GDE & PPEI both have full ECM level tunes so that they can keep factory safety parameters and re-tune it in a proper fashion. As opposed to just fooling some parameters with a piggy back tune. Both also have a turbo brake feature which is real beneficial towing in hilly terrain. Naturally their is still also warranty & government concerns to consider.
Can you add a little more information and real world experience/feel of how this works please?
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:47 AM   #33
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Say I get to the top of a long 6% grade at 50 mph and want to keep that speed for the descent. I can set the cruise at 50 mph and it will hold that speed to a 6000 pound trailer without requiring use of the truck brakes pending road conditions.

Beyond a 6K trailer or steeper grade may require supplement from the factory TBC trailer brake controller. Best use of turbo brake, TBC, & truck brakes depends on the combination of road conditions weight of load & grade. Thatís generally speaking as where your weight is at truck trailer which axle quality of hitch connection tires traction even TBC gain setting all play some part at the limits. You just have to take it easy at first until you get the feel for it.

Once you do itís very reassuring knowing you have the best possible control, speed control, & braking. Also knowing your truck brakes can stay cool & ready in case of an emergency stop situation. GCVWR is up to 15,950 on the 4th gen. Iíve had to 15,800 per scale slip on a 6 percent on good dry road & could easily control speed without use of the truck brakes or heating up the trailer brakes.

My original truck brakes lasted 293k but the 2nd set only 177k. So utilizing but not abusing your turbo brake & TBC can really help your truck brakes to last. Also truck foot brakes can be used to engage turbo brake as well as cruise control. Tow haul should be used in part as it helps the turbo brake & transmission brake work harmoniously in engagement & in controlling descent speed.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:37 AM   #34
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The Temps you had are similar to what I experienced this summer. I have 26 RB and 2016 ecodiesel with 3.92 rear axle, and on long climbs around Asheville, NC the oil temp reached 250 degrees. It dropped right away cruising down hill, so this normal for modern diesel. I have engine tune as well, so I plan on going for FCA reflash and take the $3000 and extended warranty. I then I will have my engine tune re flashed.
My 17 ram with a 6.7...3:54....oil temp. runs near the water temperature...just like my E model cat in the KW.....maybe the little engine is being overworked...oil cooled pistons...
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Old 02-19-2019, 04:49 PM   #35
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This settlement comes about a year too late for me. While Iíll take the $3000 cash settlement, Iíll still be out $1000 for a bad ED system design.

Last year I had to have the DEF tank replaced due to a faulty sensor which registered near ďemptyĒ after filling the DEF tank. Oh, and an ED Jeep wonít start when it detects ďemptyĒ and there is no workaround according to FCA. Now the settlementís extended warranty would cover this. However, my cost was $4000 for parts & labor.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:48 PM   #36
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'16 Ecodiesel, keep it or get rid of it?

Ecodiesel owners,

I know many have had great experiences and some have had horrible experiences with the Ram ecodiesel. I'm one of the great experiences, but am now in a place to decide whether or not to keep the truck.

Our lease on this truck is up in June, we are under our allotted miles and either looking to keep the ecodiesel or get a new Ram Hemi lease, or perhaps flip sides to the Ford F150 3.5 ecoboost (though this is unlikely since I do like the 2019 Ram)

I have three questions:
1. If I end my lease early, before it is up in June, will I be excluded from the settlement as a lessee? The language on ecodieselsettlement.com is confusing at best. It's $990, so I'd like to not lose that (that'd cover our cost of fuel for this summer's trips!)
2. What issues have people been having with '16 ecodiesels? We love the 2016 ecodiesel and in my research I have seen many of the issues arising in '14 and '15 models. We have had zero issues over 30,000 miles. It still has it's factory powertrain warranty for another 2 years and the settlement warranty for 4 years after that. (Interesting the settlement warranty doesn't cover the camshaft...)
3. Our residual is $26k. That's about $2.5k higher than trade in value, but about $3-4k under what we'd be able to buy the same truck from the dealer.

What would you do? Buyout? Trade in now? Wait until lease expires in June?

We have averaged 15.5mpg towing over the 4,500 miles we've towed our AS. When not towing we've averaged 27.5 on the highway (3.92 gears) and overall 23mpg with most daily miles being in the city. Going to a '19 Ram with the Hemi I'll never see those mpgs again. Fuelly reports almost no one hitting the 21mpg its supposed to get.

Thoughts and comments appreciated.
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Old 03-18-2019, 09:06 AM   #37
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1. I don't know the answer to the $990 but you have until June X to find out. Someone at the ram1500diesel site could tell you. I would at least wait until June to let go of that truck. Sounds like its been the perfect truck for summer Airstreaming and that you enjoy it a lot. Transporting them daily with this truck I have to agree.

2. The camshaft thing never proved out just an interesting guy that like to tinker and do you tube videos. In the first 3 year 100,000 unit run you can't find 3 actual examples searching the internet.

3. I would consider buying the truck and averting emissions issue and more via GDE or PPEI tune and since you tow add the turbo brake option. Its wonderful and very reassuring in the mountains. Having used the GDE tune for nearly 500,000 miles now and seeing cleaner oil, better mileage, better power etc etc. Its a no brainier to me on a truck you own.

The 5th gen with 2nd gen ED engine is said to be a 2020 available for order in June with the first hitting dealerships in the fall. So you also might have the option of ordering a new ED come your June date and then being allowed to keep your existing ED until your new one arrives. Pictures & info at the link below.

https://5thgenrams.com/ram-1500-ecod...-updates-news/
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Have you called the dealer and/or RAM to get clarity on what it takes for you to qualify for the $990 settlement cash? Seems better than asking a bunch of random highly opinionated folks who probably don't have the facts about that issue (e.g. folks like me).
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My reading of the owner notification I received for the settlement is that you must be the original owner/lessee AND have the vehicle in your possession at the time you get the check in order to get the maximum settlement. If you sell or turn in your leased vehicle before the recall fix is applied, you get a much smaller settlement amount.

And try not to have the vehicle totaled in an accident before the recall fix is applied because you wonít get the maximum settlement if you do. 😕

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Old 03-19-2019, 09:12 PM   #40
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FCA specifically stated that ď I, for one, will gladly take the settlement, especially given the issue I had with the engine in my Grand Cherokee (catastrophic engine failure at 25K miles).
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