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07-15-2017, 08:13 PM
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#41
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Selbyville
, Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 216
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2016 Chevy High Country 2500 Duramax pulling a 2016 FC front bedroom, equal-I-zer hitch. Can open the tailgate even with the truck turned a bit.
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Jamie
2016 25' RBT Flying Cloud "Bullseye"
2016 Chevy 2500 High Country Duramax Diesel
WBCCI #9026 Delmarva Unit
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07-15-2017, 10:51 PM
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#42
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4 Rivet Member
2018 28' International
Renton
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 291
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We have a 2013 F150 and 2013 23D. We couldn't until I loosened the three set screws on the jack head and rotate it 90degrees. Took me 5 minutes and now we can open our tailgate fully.
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Walt
2018 28 International Serenity
2013 F150 Ecoboost
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07-16-2017, 05:37 AM
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#43
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3 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Wheatley
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikenbern
in a word.... NO
maybe with a propride or other longer shank hitch -- you may be able to have clearance....
i use an equalizer-- and I can not open the tailgate
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07-16-2017, 05:51 AM
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#44
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
2014 30' Classic
Princeton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 302
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One More
I have had 2 Pickups and 3 trailers and was unable to open end gate with any combination, but I can open the end gate fare enough to get to the stuff at the back of the bed. I put a rage between the end gate and the hitch. Works good.
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07-16-2017, 06:35 AM
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#45
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4 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Hartsburg
, Missouri
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 465
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Many good solutions or observations offered here, the problem is many are specific to a particular situation, Rotating the motor on a jack can sometimes solve the problem but I couldn't do it with the Atwood jack on my trailer. I agree you want to keep the ball as close to the truck as possible to minimize leverage on the truck but some times extending the hitch slightly is an easy and acceptable solution. My equalizer hitch came with a 12 inch shank and as someone pointed out the next step up with equalizer was 18 inches and I didn't want to extend my hitch that far. I found a Reese shank on Amazon that was 14" and worked and only minimally extended my hitch.--Frank
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Frank & Fran
2016 27' FC FB with 600 W solar
2016 Ford F150 EcoBoost
Equalizer Hitch
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07-16-2017, 06:48 AM
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#46
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Blenheim Ontario
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,263
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Ford F-150, Ezy-lift: Nope!
Heavy stuff I remove before hooking up.
Lighter stuff, out the open upper window.
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07-16-2017, 07:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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The hitch experts at Can-Am Rv tell us even a very short extension of the hitch stinger results in an increased sway input to the vehicle's steering axle in actual handling tests. It is standard practice for them to drill a new hitch pin hole so the ball can be placed as close to the rear bumper as possible.
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Doug and Cheryl
2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
The Truth is More Important Than the Facts
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07-16-2017, 08:00 AM
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#48
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaLevel
Yes, there are 3 holes in the frame where it gets mounted, but on my jack at least, there are extra holes provided so that you can turn it 90 degrees sideways. It's designed that way so that you can turn it if required to clear the tailgate.
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Ahhh, I see. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by dkottum
The hitch experts at Can-Am Rv tell us even a very short extension of the hitch stinger results in an increased sway input to the vehicle's steering axle in actual handling tests. It is standard practice for them to drill a new hitch pin hole so the ball can be placed as close to the rear bumper as possible.
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Are they talking about buying another shank that's longer or using an extension to the existing receiver? I don't see how drilling another hole is any different than buying a longer shank.
I looked at the standard Equal-i-zer shank and the hole is only about four inches from the front. I can't see drilling another hole even closer to the front. I think a slightly longer shank is the answer, like 14".
Not scientific, but it seems most folks who's tailgates opened had 250's or 350's, while those of us with half ton's had more problems. Maybe the tailgates are shorter on larger trucks? Or the bumpers/receivers on larger trucks are farther back.
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07-16-2017, 08:18 AM
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Traveler
2017 25' International
Staunton
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 939
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaLevel
Yes, there are 3 holes in the frame where it gets mounted, but on my jack at least, there are extra holes provided so that you can turn it 90 degrees sideways. It's designed that way so that you can turn it if required to clear the tailgate.
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I never noticed that. I'm gonna take a look. Thank you.
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07-16-2017, 08:21 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Lincolnwood
, Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 312
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Equalizer setup and so long as my tt tv are straight just clears. so yes I can
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07-16-2017, 08:24 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad
Ahhh, I see. Thanks.
Are they talking about buying another shank that's longer or using an extension to the existing receiver? I don't see how drilling another hole is any different than buying a longer shank.
I looked at the standard Equal-i-zer shank and the hole is only about four inches from the front. I can't see drilling another hole even closer to the front. I think a slightly longer shank is the answer, like 14".
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Sorry I was not clear. They drill the existing stinger to move the ball as close to the bumper as possible for best possible handling and sway control. Has nothing to do with trying to fix the tail gate problem.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
The Truth is More Important Than the Facts
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07-16-2017, 09:38 AM
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#52
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4 Rivet Member
2015 27' FB International
Montgomery
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 296
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No problem at all opening the tailgate on my 2015 GMC Sierra. Using a Blue Ox hitch.
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07-16-2017, 10:32 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 31' Classic
Gretna
, Nebraska
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 152
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Blue Ox works fine on GMC 2500HD and 31' Classic.
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07-16-2017, 10:35 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Sorry I was not clear. They drill the existing stinger to move the ball as close to the bumper as possible for best possible handling and sway control. Has nothing to do with trying to fix the tail gate problem.
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The heart of the hitch / sway debate is the distance from the ball to the rear axle. Pushing that out by something like 4" is not a good idea for sway. That's about 10% of the typical ball to axle distance. Getting 4" back by drilling another hole sounds like a pretty cute idea. Sure would not help the tailgate issue any though.
In my case, I'd guess that another 2" would (barely) let the tailgate clear the power jack motor housing.
Bob
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07-16-2017, 10:41 AM
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Traveler
2017 25' International
Staunton
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 939
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For me, it's a matter of a couple centimeters. Rotating the jack would certainly do it.
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07-16-2017, 11:13 AM
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#56
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Blenheim Ontario
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
The hitch experts at Can-Am Rv tell us even a very short extension of the hitch stinger results in an increased sway input to the vehicle's steering axle in actual handling tests. It is standard practice for them to drill a new hitch pin hole so the ball can be placed as close to the rear bumper as possible.
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'Andy' drilled a closer hole for me, (ball closer to bumper.)
I noticed the difference for sure.
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07-16-2017, 03:14 PM
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#57
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3 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Saint Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 188
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Ford 2015, F 250, Propride, 2015 classic 30
No problem opening and......yes bruised shins from the stinger !
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07-16-2017, 03:15 PM
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#58
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Rivet Master
2015 25' Flying Cloud
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Blenheim Ontario
, Ontario
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MelGoddard
Ford F-150, Ezy-lift: Nope!
Heavy stuff I remove before hooking up.
Lighter stuff, out the open upper window.
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Me? I would 'leave it lay where Jesus flang it'
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07-16-2017, 03:26 PM
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#59
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,638
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Yes. Ram 2500 with Equal-I-Zer 15,000/1500 hitch and Avion 34X. No problems....
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07-16-2017, 08:09 PM
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#60
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3 Rivet Member
2014 19' International
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 184
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No...with a 2015 F-150 Blue Ox and a 19' Bambi??? But now I need to check out how much space I need and see about incorporating one of the sides, like rotating the jack. It is a pain to get stiff out of the rear of the bed when the trailer is hooked up.
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