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Old 04-14-2016, 03:04 PM   #15
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While getting the AS ready for an upcoming trip, we noticed a rivet head on the bedspread. It's been under covered storage, not moved for the last 6 months. A bit of a surprise.

My guess is expansion/contraction due to temp changes is the culprit.
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Old 04-14-2016, 09:52 PM   #16
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If I remember right there is (2) different lengths of interior rivets in a newer model AS. My memory is (1/8" by .5 long) and (1/8" by .75 long. Is that correct)?
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Can anyone confirm this? I have the ability to purchase some tomorrow and want to ensure I'm getting the correct ones
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:43 PM   #17
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I have a 19' 2007 Bambi 75th SE. It came with the HD equalizer hitch I think rated from 6-10,000 lbs. bars seem to be 1.5" square. I am towing with a new Toyota Tundra. Have owned As since Oct. just did a cross country road trip 7200 miles highway driving. It popped one rivet over the door has another loose one. Marathon tires and I am getting ready to upgrade to 16" wheels and Michelin tires. My question is are my tow bars to heavy and are the Michelin upgrade tires going to encourage more rivet popping? Also, do you have any experience with Centramatic balances that keep popping up (no pun engender). I was towing at 65mph due to flow of IS traffic. The past owner had popped a couple near the door also.
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Old 04-14-2016, 10:47 PM   #18
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I've only used 1/8 x .5 for interior rivets.
Not sure where 1/8 x .75 would be needed, but it would not hurt to have a few.

I use all aluminum, not the aluminum cap with ferrous center shaft.
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Old 04-15-2016, 12:00 AM   #19
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I've only used 1/8 x .5 for interior rivets.
Not sure where 1/8 x .75 would be needed, but it would not hurt to have a few.

I use all aluminum, not the aluminum cap with ferrous center shaft.

Thanks for taking the time to get this for me

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Old 04-15-2016, 08:24 AM   #20
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We used to pop between one and three interior rivets annually in our 2009 International 28. When we switched to 16" wheels and Michelins w Centramatics last year, we now lose about one a month. I currently see about 6 interior rivets that are loosening up (you can get a fingernail under the head.) Our only conclusion is that the higher tire pressures (we've lowered from 78 to 73, but this is still higher than the old Marathons and TowMax at 65) are bouncing the rig uo and down more in rough roads.

The occasional popped interior river seems to be normal--lotsa shear loads going down the road, particularly when you go over a driveway at an angle and one side lifts before the other for a nice twisting if the fuselage.
That's interesting...my experience is completely different. Since I switched to 16" Mich (@ 80psi) and Centramatics (along with modifying loading and WD), I can't say I've noted any more popping. Now, I do have mouse fur and vinyl covering, so it isn't quite so obvious....but the aluminum dust from rivet chafing does show through the mouse fur.
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Old 04-15-2016, 08:34 AM   #21
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Rivets and 16" wheels

Just saw this thread and my experience is as follows: On my 2007 27D, popped rivets, about one or two per 12 months. My 2009 27FB same thing.

Now, on my 2015 Serenity 30RB, after switching to the 16" wheels, Firestone Transforce tires, pressures at 54 psi, have not seen a rivet pop in 15,000 miles.

The much softer ride as a result of lower pressures possible with larger wheels/tires is easily seen after a tow, things just seem to be in place, small articles, attached with Velcro, intact after even 1000 miles of towing, and this after going through several northern states, including Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois where the roads are not always perfect.
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I've had two new Airstreams and they both lost a couple of rivets here and there. From my experience is seems to happen mostly in the first couple of years of travel and so I attribute it to things flexing. Maybe a couple of places naturally settle to a different point than when they are when installed. A slight shift and you pop a rivet. Mine have generally been above and to the right of the door.

With the hundreds of rivets in an Airstream, one or two aren't going to have any significance in the structural integrity of it.
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We have had two 25FB's, a 2005 and a 2015. The 2015 has popped three interior rivets in a year and a half and 20,000 miles. The 2005 never popped a single rivet that we know of in eight years and 120,000 miles. I use that "we know of" caveat in that the 2005 had the mouse fur walls and vinyl ceiling. For all we know of fifty rivets could have popped.

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