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Old 09-16-2016, 05:52 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by m.hony View Post
I see.
I was looking at Sport.
19' hitch weight 550
19' dry weight 3,852
19' GVW 4,500
The 19 does weigh more.
Furniture? Cabinets?

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From what I can tell: Wooden cabinets and placement over the front of the trailer. I would let an expert speak around this subject as I am still learning.

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Old 09-17-2016, 09:19 AM   #16
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Country Boy.... I have 2011 4WD Pilot and it drives fine under normal conditions. Its does not have enough power to accelerate at a decent rate when trying to pass someone on the highway. I have a 2007 25' FB Safari and tow it with a GMC 2500HD truck. I would not tow anything larger that a utility trailer behind my Honda.

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Old 09-17-2016, 10:00 AM   #17
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How is it that the 22 Sport weighs less than the 19 flying cloud?

The 22 sport is narrower than the 19s and 20s, and has been purposefully designed to be lighter (due to price point or engineering, depending on your viewpoint).

Flying cloud has wood front uppers on the cabinets/Sport has rolling tambour doors.
Flying could has more drawers/Sport has only 1 drawer.
Flying cloud has different sinks and stove and ovens than Sport
Flying cloud has different windows that are likely heavier.
Table dinettes are different.

That being said. I drove a Honda Pilot for 10 years and it is a great product. But once we decided that we would buy a 22 sport and not a 16, we bought a Toyota Tundra. With the Pilot there is just no way to be able to have that extra power --merging, passing, avoiding incidents-- that to me equal a safety level that I desire. And we tow at 60 Mph with our Tundra. Safety is important.

Could you tow with a Pilot for very short hop weekend trips on 2 lane flat roads? Yes.

I would not want to be on busy interstate highway traffic or in the mountains, or even on a constant uphill grade like driving west across KS or NE with one while towing a 22.

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Old 09-17-2016, 10:32 AM   #18
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Is the Sport a "narrow body" and the Flying Cloud a "wide body" maybe?
Sport exterior widths listed as 7' 3.25"-8' so I guess there are both narrow and wide?
The 16' is 8' wide and the 22' is 7' 3.25" wide?
That's crazy.
The 19' is 8' wide.
Maybe the 19' weighs more because it is wider?

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Old 09-17-2016, 11:38 AM   #19
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The 22FB Sport is unique among all current Airstream models. It's lower, narrower, and lighter than any other model except the 16'.

I have a 2006 Ridgeline and it has absolutely no problem towing this trailer. In fact it tows like a dream. I don't use the fast lane uphill on mountain passes, but I'm not the slowest vehicle either.

What are the tradeoffs? Biggest bed in any Airstream, bathroom as big as any Airstream, lots of kitchen counter space, fits in tent sites... not bad!

Ok, storage space is limited and there's no couch seating area.
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:55 PM   #20
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My 2015 Honda Pilot, EX, Auto, AWD pulls my Sport 22 with ease using a Blue Ox SwayPro hitch. Noticed very little effect from passing trucks and wind at 55 mph. Still evaluating gas mileage but there is a significant drop--22.8 max to around 13.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:44 PM   #21
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Check the payload numbers on your Pilot. They are a bit low. Honda has some interesting ideas about how little you will be carrying with you. (I'm in the process of trading one in). They are fine SUV's and I've liked mine a lot. Once you add the trailer tongue weight to passenger and gear weight .... things got marginal for us, even on a smaller trailer than what we have. Also realize that you may (or may not) load the trailer properly. The real weight could be a bit above the ideal number.

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Old 05-23-2017, 10:27 AM   #22
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For 3 summers I towed a 23' Gulfstream Visa (now called Vista) which seems to be about the weight trailer you're asking about here. This was absolute max for the Pilot. I did a lot of ATF temp monitoring as well. While it did GREAT within my State of Wisconsin and if you can tolerate near redline RPM for mountain travel, it would do ok. Not great. Just ok. Not more then a few trips a year is all you'll want to do.

I ran 19" UPH (ultra high performance = extremely stiff sidewalls) and the E2 WDH with 1000lb bars. I also tried a Hensley with 1000lbs bars for a short trip and it was pretty ridiculous (ridiculously GOOD), but at that same time I also bought a larger SUV.

MPG's ranged from 8-12mpg. Average 9-10. I never saw 13.


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