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Old 05-16-2015, 11:35 PM   #43
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Hey question. So traveling the Grapevine in CA as often as I do my favorite and most used feature on my XC and Denali is the diesel exhaust brake. Do the 1/2 ton diesels have one as well? Heck can you get 1/2 tons in diesel??
Ram currently builds a 1/2-ton ecodiesel. General Motors and Nissan are both supposed to offer a 1/2-ton diesel for the 2016 model year.

I have no idea if they currently have or will have exhaust brakes.

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Old 05-18-2015, 09:30 AM   #44
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Hi flash. Just bought the same trailer. I tow with a 2014 Chevy Silverado with the max tow package and a propride hitch. The 5.2 V8 strains a little on hills with AC on but otherwise it toes and handles like a dream. Specs on truck r 11300 max tow and 1200 max tongue Wt.... I'm careful not to overload the truck and I try to distribute wt in the trailer towards the rear. Truck also came with camper mirrors.

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Old 05-18-2015, 10:19 AM   #45
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Nissan announced a "heavy" half ton with a Cummins small V8 diesel supposedly hitting the streets fall of 2015.
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:07 PM   #46
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Ok, now that I've had some time to read the entire thread I've come to one're all nuts! But that's okay, I think everyone is crazy, some are just ahead of the curve.

The information I've already received is invaluable even from pre-test drive perspective so many thanks for the contribution and wealth of information!

My quandary now sits at 1/2 vs 3/4 but that is something I will deal with at the dealership in whatever I am comfortable in driving. Whether anyone is willing to admit or not, it's GMC's and Ford's that take the cake in favoritism (in this thread and others) with some RAM sprinkled in.

My situation is wanting a truck that can both serve as a comfortable Bay Area CA daily driver and an "on the safer side than sorry" towing experience since this is my first AS. That's where only a test drive to see my comfort will provide an answer (and I will definitely report back). From what I gather, a 1/2 and 3/4 would both do fine with my 27fb, with other considerations in mind (which, my god, that is what I really need to learn more about).
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:29 PM   #47
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Cool personal opinions only - yours may vary - you are entitled

Ram 1500 features engine braking or transmission braking (depending on how you look at it) in Tow Haul mode on the Hemi's. Same on the 3/4 ton 6.7 Hemi option.

Ram offers the best bang for dollar in my personal opinion. Plus they don't have square wheel wells, like GM seems to like. (once you see it you can't unsee the squares)

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Old 05-18-2015, 04:41 PM   #48
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:47 PM   #49
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Go with the dodge ,in flat calif the hemi will do just fine
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:31 PM   #50
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Our Hemi did just fine in not-so-flat Calif during our visit to Yosemite last year as well.

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Old 05-18-2015, 06:59 PM   #51
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Nothing wrong with square wheel wells, especially with a Hemi under the hood.
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Can't really go wrong with any of the big 3 USA truck makers. I think I could probably be happy with any of them. But once you go squares, nothing else will quite do!

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Ok friends, descend upon me your knowledge and I will be forever grateful.

I've narrowed down my TV search to stick with a half ton and am leaning toward a Ram 1500 Ecodiesel and a GMC Sierra 1500 w/ max towing package and EcoTec 5.3 V8. While we can debate back and forth on which is better for the sake of towing, I am currently leaning toward the Ram. Uh, Rambox?! Mind officially blown. And as BoldAdventure pointed out, they serve as a great beer cooler.

What I need help with now is calculations. My AS has a GVWR of 7600 and a tow weight of 770. I want to get one of these ProPride's given that it's so highly recommended by nearly everyone throughout this forum. Does the ProPride factor into the payload of the TV? And, I've seen the numbers vary wildly, so I should assume that the tongue weight should jump to over 1000#'s. So, let's say that the Laramie and Laramie Longhorn have max payloads of 1388 and 1300 (respectively) and the GMC Sierra 1500 I can't find numbers for but I assume it to be over 2000#'s.

Could I get by with the Ecodiesel....reaaaally?
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Old 05-27-2015, 12:48 AM   #54
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The ProPride will factor into tow capacity, tongue weight, and payload by its own weight. The part that is attached to the trailer tongue is added tongue weight, which also reduce your payload by its own weight.
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Theflash44 - if you're tongue weight exceeds 1000#, will that exceed the hitch receiver rating on either vehicle?

The difficulty with a single answer is that it depends on what your trailer weighs (and where you out that weight) fully loaded for camping, on the scales, with WD applied. My AS literature said the tongue weight was some 800+ lbs - but in the scenario I outlined above, it's actually 1080# (which isn't a problem for my 1500# receiver, but is 80# over the unclear AS limit of 1,000#, but in no case above the receiver limit...&#128563.

I doubt you'd be at full GVWR with your trailer (unless you can't control yourself with "stuff") so if you assumed 6,000# loaded for camping and 1,000# for tongue - what would that do for your calculations?
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Ram currently builds a 1/2-ton ecodiesel. General Motors and Nissan are both supposed to offer a 1/2-ton diesel for the 2016 model year.

I have no idea if they currently have or will have exhaust brakes.
N0 exhaust brake on my RAM 1500 ecodiesel, however, when in tow mode it automatically downshifts through the eight speed transmissions gears when descending a hill. The break pedal pressure applied on a decline causes the tranny to downshift to the correct gear selection for the current speed of decline.

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