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Old 01-05-2016, 03:49 PM   #1
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New Tires???

Happy Holidays to all you Airstreamers! My question is whether we should purchase new tires for ouir Airstream before next spring. We purchased a 2014 25-ft Flying Cloud late this past summer, and we have enjoyed it very much for the short time we could tow with it before putting it up for winter. We know the previous owners, and they have put between twenty and twenty-five thousand miles on the F. C. before we got it. For 2016 we are planning several long hauls up and down the entire eastern U.S.A. This will involve highway and secondary roads. The tires still have tread above the wear bars, and the sidewalls show no fatique. But, as we all know, little "nasties" can lie beneath. So, learned colleagues, what is your call? Is it time to put new tires on the F.C.? If so, can you recommend a very good quality tire?
THANK YOU for your assistance!! Jerry in VT
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Old 01-05-2016, 08:06 PM   #2
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If they're marathons it sure wouldn't hurt to swap to michelins
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Old 01-05-2016, 08:29 PM   #3
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Tonight I started a post entitled "Beat up subject....but", it on the same issue & you might want to join the conversation.
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Old 01-05-2016, 08:29 PM   #4
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I have a 25' 2013 with original tires. I took it to the tire store and was told that newer GYM are much better than the old blow out prone tires. I'm planing on running them one or two more seasons.
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Old 01-06-2016, 08:59 AM   #5
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THANK YOU to the folks who replied to my New Tires?? question!

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Old 01-06-2016, 09:17 AM   #6
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For peace of mind, I would suggest new tires. I installed the Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on the stock wheels on my 2013 25FB International Serenity after I got it to the local storage unit from the dealership 500+ miles away.

The cost for four of these tires is in the $500 class plus taxes etc. Airstream also offers the 16" SenDel wheels and 16" Michelin LT225/75R16/E LTX M/S2 tires at Jackson Center for the 25" and longer Airstreams (standard on the 2015 and later Classics and the 27' Eddie Bauer). These can be sourced locally. The 16" conversion with five tires and wheels and the other accessories cost me around $2,200

I would also suggest a tire pressure monitor system. We used the Dill TPMS 1506-453 system from Discount Tire around $380.00.

We also installed the Centramatic wheel balancers that are currently $199 plus freight for the sizes below:

14" 5 bolt pattern #200-221 standard part

15" 6 bolt pattern #200-221 Special

16" 6 bolt pattern #300-356 all A plates

The 31' 2014 Classic was converted from 15" tires and wheels to the 16" tires and wheels while the 23D was converted to the 15" tires and wheels from the original 14" tires and wheels. Both conversions included Centramatic wheel balancers, the Dill TPMS system along with McGard 24138 Chrome Cone Seat Wheel Locks and McGard 64010 Chrome Bulge Cone Seat Style Lug Nuts (McGard parts are available from Amazon).

Our 25FB rode well on the 15" Michelins at the recommended 44 psi. They have a softer ride as well as a bigger foot print on the road for better braking than the GYM tires.

In over 45 years of riding on Michelin tires, I have never had a failure.
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Thanks, SWITZ and others

THANK YOU, SWITZ, for such a detailed reply. Very helpful! Just one further question, if I may: I read where he tire code includes "LTX," which I believe means "Light Truck" though I do not know what the "X" represents. Then I read "(P)" which means - I think - "Passenger." Is this correct? If not, please set me straight. Again, many thanks. Jerry
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Jerry, the LTX is Michelin's name for the tire (I believe), and the P is the Passenger rating. The LT in LT225 stands for Light Truck... I think it's a bit confusing, but there it is.

I don't believe anyone is making an LT E rated tire in 15" anymore, at least Michelin isn't, and that's why the need to increase to a 16" to get the LTX in an E rated tire.

Looking to do the same upgrade one day on the Silver Turd.

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I don't believe anyone is making an LT E rated tire in 15" anymore, at least Michelin isn't, and that's why the need to increase to a 16" to get the LTX in an E rated tire.
The Nokian Rotiiva AT tire is an LT tire

A all season tire that offers optimal performance with no compromises in terms of safety and driving comfort
LT235/75R15 116/113 S up to 112 mph, max load 2760 lb


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Thanks! I'll have to look into that one!

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RLS, looks like a great find, are you running these tires now, I like the load of 2760, I had Nokian tires on my Tundra back about 10 years ago and never had an issue. Do you know how the height of these tires compare to the stock GYM.
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RLS, looks like a great find, are you running these tires now, I like the load of 2760, I had Nokian tires on my Tundra back about 10 years ago and never had an issue. Do you know how the height of these tires compare to the stock GYM.
No, right now I have Continental Vanco 2 tires that are 6.5 yrs. old. Before heading out this yr. I am thinking about replacing them due to age ( still look new! ) with either the Nokian Rotiiva AT tires or the Michelin Defender ones. I'm on the fence line as to which one to get at this time, but I am swaying towards the Michelin due to softer ride at 50 psi. But at the same time I sure do like the load capacity of the Nokian ones! I did email Nokian about lowering the air pressure to 65 psi and was told the load capacity would go down to 2,335 lbs. at 65 psi.
The height of the Nokian is 28.9" while the Marathons are 28.3". The Michelin Defenders are 28.8"
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Thanks Bob, I am on the fence to, we both have the 25 foot AS so we can use the Michelins, hard to beat there reputation and am currently running them on my truck and car.
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Jerry, my Airstream is only 6 months old & I'm switching to Michelin Defenders in March when that tire hits the market. The GMT debate has convinced me it either pay now or pay later when I get a blowout & damage my Airstream. I've driven trucks for years & the LT tires (Michelin) are trailer safe. Check out the Michelin website/Defender LT tires.
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