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Old 01-29-2013, 09:53 PM   #15
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I was going to say that the new Ford Expeditions set up for towing and the 3.73 rear, is about as good of an SUV combo you can get without going to a 3/4 ton like the Burb. The last Expedition we owned got decent mileage and that was before the new 6 speed tranny. Might be a good match for you.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:13 PM   #16
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2club - Wait unit a year goes by with your 2013 F-250 diesel then see how you like it. My bet - you will like it even more!!! Today's trucks are nothing like trucks even 5 years ago.

A/S trailers are not light trailers.

Why do so many A/S people hate trucks?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:15 AM   #17
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tuffr2, I'm not so sure A/S people hate trucks, but we do have a choice, unlike you fifth wheelers who do not.

Speaking of fifth wheelers, why do we see so many who full-time and snowbird have a compact car as an accessory to their towing setup? That may help answer your last question.

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Old 01-30-2013, 01:58 AM   #18
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We towed our 31 ft. Classic with a 2007 Expedition EL up until March of last year. Then I purchased the 2012 F-250 diesel. Best move I ever made. The Expedition always had plenty of power but lacked in stability at times. I could have added a Hensley hitch but decided that would not address all of the shortfalls. We love the F-250. But ours is not a 'runaround' daily driver. It pretty much only gets out when I need to tow either the car or camper trailer. Wish you luck in your search.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:32 AM   #19
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:45 AM   #20
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:45 AM   #21
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We towed our 31 ft. Classic with a 2007 Expedition EL up until March of last year. Then I purchased the 2012 F-250 diesel. Best move I ever made. The Expedition always had plenty of power but lacked in stability at times. I could have added a Hensley hitch but decided that would not address all of the shortfalls. We love the F-250. But ours is not a 'runaround' daily driver. It pretty much only gets out when I need to tow either the car or camper trailer. Wish you luck in your search.
Get an E-qual-izer and add a set of Firestone rear air bags and you will be all set. The hitch isn't as heavy or as complicated as the Hensley and the airbags give you alot more stability. Your Expedition will do the job just fine.

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:39 AM   #22
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Air bags=stability=towing=oxymoron....especially Firestone.

Increase my weight carrying capacity 5000lbs....really?

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On Sep 7, 2011, at 12:34 PM, INFO @ SuspensionConnection wrote:

The Firestone air bags will increase your weight carrying capacity by
5000 pounds. I definitely recommend this system for your Burb:
Chevy Firestone Air Bags - 2000-2009 Chevy Suburban 2500 4x4 & 2wd - "Ride-Rite" Air Bag Helper Springs (Rear)

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I am wondering how much more payload I will gain by adding rear bags to
my 06 3/4 Burb. Not sure of what the "level load capacity" of the Burb
is now.
I am concerned about overloading the axle as I tow an RV. How much would
I gain by upgrading the suspension with a quality air bag system.
Look forward to your recommendations.

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Old 01-31-2013, 10:25 AM   #23
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Not sure why everyone says the Hensley is complicated. We are Newbie's and it wasn't that difficult of a learning curve. Heavy, yes! But, the Hensley is the best hitch out there. When we tow our 27' with our Expedition EL you can't even tell you are towing anything, so smooth and very stable. Never read that anyone with a Hensley downgraded to another hitch but, have read that many have upgraded to the Hensley. Just my 2 cents! Not trying to make anyone upset!!
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:09 AM   #24
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Simply put you can only blame so much on the vehicle for poor gas mileage. I have a 2007 Chevy Avalanche Z71. with a 5.3L V8. when I first bought it i was getting 12-13 MPG in the city. Enter higher gas prices and somehow my foot got lighter...Now I get 20-21 MPG in the city. Granted my engine switches to V4 mode when not under heavy load but when I'm towing my airstream on flat land (31' Excella) at 55 mph it is pulling in V4 mode. Driving habits play a bigger roll because when they put the average miles reported on your sticker that is based on leadfoot statistics. Stop to smell the roses when you drive...you'll find your 13 MPG City car go up at least 5 MPG if you do
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I use air bags on my TV. They DO NOT increase the load carrying capacity of the TV.
I feel they do help with the stability and reduce the porpoising effects.
I don't believe the airbags shift much if any weight to the front axle. But the next time I get to the scales, I will find out and report back on the results.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:54 PM   #28
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Last Thursday, I added a Curt 15049 hitch rated at 2,550 pounds tongue weight to my new 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins because the factory hitch was rated 1,200 pounds and my tongue weight is 1,175 pounds. There have been reports of failed weld joints at the ends of the tube that holds the factory receiver to the frame rails.

Today, Wednesday, I just completed a self leveling Kelderman air bag suspension system installation on both front and rear axles at their factory in Oskaloosa, Iowa. After the installation was completed, the rear suspension was 3" lower so that the truck sits nearly level. It will retain that elevation even when weight is added to the truck. I can also dump the rear wheel air and lower the tailgate over 3" which makes loading easier. The air system has an air chuck to enable me to plug in an air hose to put air into either the truck or trailer tires.

The ride over bumps became much more comfortable and modulated.

The last major mechanical modification takes place Monday when I switch out the factory 34 gallon diesel fuel tank under the cab and bed for one with 56 gallon capacity.

The new truck receiver is about 2.5" higher that the Hensley Arrow opening on the Airstream , so that offset is workable.
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