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Old 06-12-2014, 08:23 PM   #29
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love that photo.. happen to see a caprice just like that one the other day and got to thinking.. now there a good tow vehicle for sure.. big ole 350 CI engine now called a 5.7L and strong frame. Mileage would suck but you might get one for 4-5K used in good condition.

That will buy a LOT of gas when compared to a used tundra with 5.7L at 15K or more.
It managed to tow that 7000lbs Airstream with a max power output of 130 hp, 200 lb·ft torque and a three speed gearbox. Even the primitive suspension and drum brakes, which were normal for the time, seemed to have performed just fine.
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:15 PM   #30
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Don't underestimate big drum brakes, these are still used nearly exclusively in class 8 trucks, and most full size 60s cars had pretty good suspension and handling.

A lot of people forget that the speed limits in the 60s and 70s was 70 or 75 in many states .
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"and most full size 60s cars had pretty good suspension and handling."

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AHHH….Rose coloured glasses syndrone.

My 1969 Dart 340 GTS convertible luckily had the front discs instead of front drums fitted to the GT so it sorta braked……more like just slowed down.
Handling….it probably didn't help I had the torque tubes wound right up but driving on Saltspring Island could be a pretty hair raising at times, as there were only two straight sections on the island interspersed with lots of off camber corners which my Dart hated, (at least my tires did).
The only thing my Dart did well …….was to go like a bat out of hell and pick up chics.

The one thing I know beyond a shadow of doubt…..my 07 Altima 3.5SE 6 sp manual would make mince meat of my old Dart…even in a drag race (maybe not in the first 1/8th but the last 1/8th I would easily take my Dart).

IMHO I would tow with a new vehicle that had vehicle stability control and other helpfull technology over a 60's car any day.

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Old 06-12-2014, 09:50 PM   #32
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Have to be careful on the road. I was in south Tampa not too long ago and someone passed me then immediately cut in front and slammed the brakes on as several cars ahead were doing. The problem was that he cut my braking distance off so quickly. It was a squealing moment to say the least.
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:24 PM   #33
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I drove a 1978 Jeep CJ5 today to get a state inspection.
Brakes? What brakes?
I also drove a BMW Z3 to get a state inspection. Brakes is one area where the beemer comes out on top.
Then, back in my Tundra- what a difference?Click image for larger version

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I was towing the AS at the time.

agreed on the BMW brakes
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A dart isn't a full size car.
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A dart isn't a full size car.
Semantics, the Dart would be considered a full size car by today's standard, but you have my curiosity……What FULL size 60's or 70's car would YOU consider to be a great handling car with good suspension that would equal a modern day car???? Pontiac Parissenne perhaps or Buick 98?
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A Dart was an intermediate car, i specifically typed "full size car" for a reason.

Did I say "great by today's standards" in my post? Did I even say great at all?
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One example would be a Galaxie 500, it had a 390ci, C6, and a 9" rear end. Built like a pickup but had a lower center of gravity.
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Even big Mercs, LTD's, Cadys, Olds, Buick, Imperials. Etc.
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Even big Mercs, LTD's, Cadys, Olds, Buick, Imperials. Etc.
Just imagine how fast an Imperial with a 440 could pull an Airstream.
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I used to drive all my old Land Rovers as if they had no brakes. Because, really, they didn't, in any meaningful sense.
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Drum brakes, no power stearing, poor suspensions and lots of power of the old cars made us better drivers. Put a young person today in one of these cars and he would not last a day without an accident. Add the fact that there was very little safety built into these vehicles. Oh yea, AM radios with just one speaker in the dash. Sorry about being off topic. Jim
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