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Old 04-19-2019, 09:56 PM   #1
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Leveled truck sag

So my tow vehicle is a 2009 Dodge Ram 1500. I have a 2 inch leveling kit on it. So of course it sags a little in the rear with the 16' sport hitched up. Is this an issue?

Also, I would like to bring my dirt bikes along with the trailer. But i'm afraid with the added 500 lbs. in the bed it would sag way too much. Would adding a set of air lift springs to the rear be the best option?

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Old 04-19-2019, 10:12 PM   #2
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Stock vehicles are setup with a bit of rake just for this reason. If you level it by raising the front, and add load to the rear, the sag will be pronounced as you're experiencing.

If you don't want to sagging look, either remove the leveling kit, or lift the rear. Bags will help a bit to support the load. But may still visibly look droopy in the rear.

The Land Cruiser forums get this all the time too. Newbies level the front with a spacer kit. First time they load out to go overlanding or vacationing, it sags like an old car.
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nI have a ram with air bags. I use them to level out the truck when carrying a full payload.

Your picture does not show a WD hitch. That is another way to get more level.
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Front leveling kit aside, it looks like the trailer is weighing the rear of the truck down more than it should. I would check the the way the trailer is loaded. It is easy to put too much cargo in the front. The truck should be able to handle 500 lbs on the hitch without the level being significantly affected.
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A dropped shank on the hitch would help.
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A dropped shank on the hitch would help.
?? that will just lower the trailer tongue and make the trailer out of level too.
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WD hitch is the simple solution.
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You will need the longer shank with any of the changes or the trailer will be high in front.
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Front leveling kit aside, it looks like the trailer is weighing the rear of the truck down more than it should. I would check the the way the trailer is loaded. It is easy to put too much cargo in the front. The truck should be able to handle 500 lbs on the hitch without the level being significantly affected.
That is what I was thinking too. However, it didn't even have anything loaded in the front during this picture.

I feel like a WD hitch is overkill for the 16', but maybe i'm wrong about that?
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Question...why the kit, appearance only or other concerns?

Raise the rear, WD or lose the kit. 🤔

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That is what I was thinking too. However, it didn't even have anything loaded in the front during this picture.

I feel like a WD hitch is overkill for the 16', but maybe i'm wrong about that?
So you then have about 350 to 400 lbs load on the hitch. That's two guys sitting on the tailgate. Your truck can handle it. A weight distribution hitch would be overkill.
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WD hitch is the simple solution.
This!
For a small trailer, the Fastway E-2 is the baby brother of the Equalizer.
Sway control is a bonus.
Now, when you raise the truck to level, your trailer will be out of whack, so you can drop the hitch head one hole in the shank. Easy-peasy. (It takes a little experimenting, I'm not sure mine is done yet!)

BTW, I just noticed that the YouTube couple that do RV advice,"Fate Unbound" don't have an equalizer hitch on their rig. With a 22' box RV! They live in!

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So you then have about 350 to 400 lbs load on the hitch. That's two guys sitting on the tailgate. Your truck can handle it. A weight distribution hitch would be overkill.
But those two guys are totally behind the rear axle of the truck, so part of their mass is trying to LIFT the front wheels too!
I just think level is better.
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Simple.... You just need a one ton for that huge trailer!
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Yes...you can tell WD is 'overkill' by noting how much the TW drops the rear of the truck.🤔
You could put a bike rack or generator platform on the rear of the trailer to offset the rear bias of the trailer axle placement, the extra weight would raise the tongue.🤓

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