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Old 08-31-2015, 01:19 AM   #57
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I note on HogFan's post above it sounds like the "HD-Payload package" is still not available. Does anyone insight as to when (or if) that will change?

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At this point I'm not sure if you can still order 2015s, but you will soon be able to order the 2016s that start production in October. I think what Hogfan meant was that you can't order HD Payload in a fancy truck. Lariat Base (500A) is the highest trim level at which you can add the HD Payload option (627) and the next one down is XLT Mid, you can't get it on the XLT Luxury trim either.
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The Yukon XL SLT 4x4 5.3L with max trailering 3.42 rear end ratio $61,925 MSRP
Curb weight-5775
Max payload -1725
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The Yukon XL Denali 4x4 with 6.2L $70,220 MSRP
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Both good options in my opinion.
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For some reason the Yukon XL Denali has a 3.23 ratio - b/c of the larger tires perhaps? They are 22" tires
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For some reason the Yukon XL Denali has a 3.23 ratio - b/c of the larger tires perhaps? They are 22" tires
The 6.2L in the Denali comes with the 3.23 ratio standard with no other options. I guess the 6.2L probably needs the taller gear for improved fuel economy.
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A couple of points: the Chevy LTZ is equivalent to the GMC SLT in trim, etc. Neither the Denali nor the equivalent Chevy (High Country) is available with the max tow package, which gives you a 3:42 rear axle with the 6.2 engine and 8-speed. You have to get an LTZ or SLT to get that option, which is a physically different rear axle with a larger ring gear in the differential. My experience was that this package was very hard to find and impossible to order. That said, I'm not sure it's required for a 25-footer. I'm using the 6.2/max tow package in a pickup to pull a 27-footer and I'm very pleased with it. Phenomenal fuel economy-up to 24 mpg on the highway at 60-65 and plenty of power for towing.
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I have been told that the F150 has a max payload of 3300 lbs. Now for the deductions:

Engine -800
4x4 -300
other options -500
Fiberglass cap -125
bed liner - 50
Fuel 36 gal - 250
Passengers - 400 for 2
misc stuff in cab - 50
tongue weight - 900 fully loaded
Hitch - 75

Total: 3450 Sorry the F150 is slightly overloaded. I know I have the F150 SLT and can certainly tell when I am pulling the 27 Classic that the F150 is sagging in the rear and the engine is working full time. I don't feel the least bit uncomfortable but when I put the truck on the scales with it loaded with all of the stuff that I take with us ( I know way too much) but we are gone for months at a time. The Truck weighs 7700 lbs without trailer tongue weight. The F150 is doing the job but at what cost in life.

Just to let everyone know the sticker load is for an empty dry truck. No fuel, no passengers, no driver no stuff.

My next truck will have to be the F250. The Specs of the F150 are just too marginal for me and with the lighter trick and smaller engine the risk is just too great for me.

Please let me know if there is any advertising that contradicts the 3300 lbs and that it is for the smallest truck with the smallest engine with every option being deducted from the 3300 to get the sticker max load on the door. That is why they are all different. Even the radio choice effects that sticker weight.

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I have been told that the F150 has a max payload of 3300 lbs. Now for the deductions:

Engine -800
4x4 -300
other options -500
Fiberglass cap -125
bed liner - 50
Fuel 36 gal - 250
Passengers - 400 for 2
misc stuff in cab - 50
tongue weight - 900 fully loaded
Hitch - 75
gr. austin, why are you deducting for engine, 4x4, and fuel? Those are removed from payload prior to the rating. I do not question your need, just the figuring. You would lose about 400# (guessing) from your current truck weighing in at 7700#. The most payload I saw on the lot (2300) was an XLT and several at around 2100# payload. Tongue, hitch, misc, passengers, bedliner ?, cap and you are looking at 1600# with around 700 left over. Those other things- options, engine, 4x4, fuel are already in the mix prior to payload sticker.
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I think he is counting those because he started with max payload. Either way, i think he should not be counting fuel. The door sticker says passengers and cargo. Examples in my manuals have not deducted for fuel.

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I think he is counting those because he started with max payload. Either way, i think he should not be counting fuel. The door sticker says passengers and cargo. Examples in my manuals have not deducted for fuel.

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Yeah, I saw that. I guess but I am not sure 3300# is a constant either. I was amazed at how they vary from truck to truck the day the sales guy and I went around the lot for what seemed forever opening doors, etc. looking for a truck and payload. I did not open all 135 trucks on the lot but quite a few.

I can't wait to tow. I am just getting 1000 miles on the truck so I can try it out. I just threw out my order sheets that they gave me in June. If I recall, the Lariat was the highest trim level you can add the payload pkg on but it was not available for order on that model until July then was available. Odd but the sales guy wrote a note for me on that. I guess now it does not matter. BTW, to me, the Lariat is a fancy truck at least compared to what I had before. From my own conclusion, it seems that the XLT is the workhorse truck and the Lariat its luxury workhorse brother. What we found on the lot kinda confirmed that with payload on the King Ranch and Platinum. Jason and I were looking at every trim model from XLT up looking for a payload and also a particular truck we could not find. I also found out that my truck in an exact setup with different wheels/tires adds 200# payload. Every feature it seems makes a difference. Looking at the door sticker is CRITICAL!
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