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Old 10-22-2003, 10:51 PM   #15
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My next thought is whether I will put in an Equal-i-zer or a Reese dual-cam. I have used a dual-cam for the last 9 years but the folks at Bill Thomas and others have raved about the Equal-i-zer.

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Old 10-23-2003, 08:03 AM   #16
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Regardless of the hype, the Equal-I-Zer is functionally no different than dual friction sway controls on a conventional hitch.

Unlike the Hensley and Pullrite, both the Equal-I-Zer and the Dual-Cam resist the tow vehicle turning the trailer as much as they resist the trailer turning the tow vehicle, so the amount of resistance they present to sway must be compromised to allow turning without binding.

The same resistance they provide to sway, however much it is, resists the tow vehicle turning when its front tires are turned and creates understeer, where the tires lose some grip and want to go straight rather than sideways when turned. This is more of a problem on wet pavement.

The difference between the Dual Cam and the Equal-I-Zer is that the Dual Cam tries to keep the rig straight. Where any friction hitch, including the Equal-I-Zer, ALSO resists the tow vehicle when it's turning to get the rig straight, the Dual-Cam is applying force to help get the rig straight.

From my perspective, if you're gonna stick with conventional sway control, chose the lesser of two evils with the Dual-Cam.
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Old 10-23-2003, 11:07 PM   #17
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I spent a lot of time researching last night and came to the same conclusion that the Equal-i-zer was a pure friction type unit where the Reese did apply some force to keep the trailer straight. I've used a Reese dual-cam on both my SOB and my Safari over the past 7 years and have been very happy.

My main issue has been the U-bolt's which on both trailers have entered into the area of the gas bottle trays. The new HP strait-line offering from Reese still gives you the dual-cam, and removes the requirement of the U-bolts.

I'm leaning heavily towards the Reese at this point. Especially since I'll be able to get it at dealer cost.

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Old 10-24-2003, 08:41 AM   #18
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I just had the Reese dual cam installed. Couldn't use the one with the Ubolts either so I put on the one that actually screws onto the A frame. So far so good.
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Another point for the Reese Dual Cam HP (no U bolts), here. No problems with it.

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Sorry to hear of your inconveniences but we're sure this upgrade will be just what you were missing: The Cherry ontop of your beautiful new AS/Truck combination!!

Now you're complete. How does the wallet feel?

(we understand: we had bought a new SUV for the AS and then found out it didn't have enough torque. Sold it losing much and got a used truck)
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Old 10-25-2003, 08:56 AM   #20
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My main issue has been the U-bolt's which on both trailers have entered into the area of the gas bottle trays. The new HP strait-line offering from Reese still gives you the dual-cam, and removes the requirement of the U-bolts.

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Jack,

As I'm going to 25' from 19', I have been thinking about upgrading my sway control as well from friction to the dual cam...one of the things that held me back was what you had said a while back about the U-Bolts in the way of the LP tank area.

Well, this AM, I took a look at the reeseproducts.com website and got a good look at the HP. I also looked at an '04 Safari (which I am sure the Classic is the same). Took the two pictures and kind of in my mind placed the install on the "A" frame...... My concern is that the frontal mounting arm might conflict with the gas line on the curbside.

Anyone comment on this?

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I have seen the dual cam HP setup on 3 Classics so far. I believe that the gas line had to be unclamped while doing the install but after the cam brackets had been installed they had been put back in the same area. I am sorry to not have more details. But I will say I have seen them on the new Classics and the owners loved them.

Sorry again for no more details.
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Hey thanks JP for the info....I've been looking at hitch upgrades for a bit now since ordering the 25' Safari. With that large of a unit, I just don't feel that friction sway is a good choice, but at the same time, I didn't want to mod out or conflict with the gas line. With this info in hand, the HP seems like the right choice (especially for those that don't have about three grand lying around for a hitch system... ).

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My concern is that the frontal mounting arm might conflict with the gas line on the curbside.

Anyone comment on this?

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Eric,
When they installed my dual-cam on the Safari, they just unscrewed the clamps guiding the gas line and pulled it aside to get things mounted. Seems to be something that they are quite acustomed to do. I think that new HP unit pretty much eliminates the issues with the bolts in the gas bottle tray area.

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The gas line is held up to the bottom of the tongue with a coupla clamps that are riveted to it. Drill the heads off the rivets, let the line drop, install your hitch clamps, then rehang the gas line below, using spacers between the gas line clamps and tongue, and longer screws or rivets.
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Now you're complete. How does the wallet feel?

(we understand: we had bought a new SUV for the AS and then found out it didn't have enough torque. Sold it losing much and got a used truck)
I haven't figured the cost of the hitch work although at dealer's cost it will be significantly less. Right now I'm on the honeymoon. Old trailer sold, insurance cancelled. One other significant expense will be sales tax Now if we hold off the payment of the tax and registration till January we can escape the first year of annual personal property taxes (assesed on the valuation of the trailer) that our fine county levies.

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Eric---we have a 19 Bambi & had a Reese HP Dual Cam put on for the reason if we should ever go bigger the hitch should be o.k. When they installed the dual Cam, the holder the gas line was in was unfastened & then reattached after the Dual Cam was installed. Really no biggie. I really like the set-up & it's easy to hook-up, etc. I think you would be satisfied with one. Good luck with the new dream.
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Thanks......I'm going to go looking for a price on it in the next week or so. I am unsure what can be salvaged out of my old setup of the 1200lb bars, hitch and horseshoe mounts.....

Anyone know?

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I'm not sure with the HP model but when I bought my SOB a few year back, I did have to change out my spring bars since the ones I had were not heavy enough and did not have the predrilled holes for the dual cam attachments which mount on the end of the bars. The snap up brackets, hitch, and ball (all other components) were all reusable.

That's the nice thing about the Reese. You can upgrade components over the years since the dual cam is an add on to existing hitch equipment.

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