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Old 06-07-2013, 08:06 AM   #1
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The Michelin P235/75R/15 LXT S/M have been recommended here and elsewhere for my 2008 Safari 28'. I have called Costco and one other place and they will not install them. They say the tires are not rated for this vehicle and that I need trailer tires (which cost a whole lot less). Any suggestions?
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:12 AM   #2
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Costco, Sears and other retailers will not install these tires on a trailer. I had the same thing happen. I took mine to a pro tire shop in town. The kind of place that does big rigs and other commercial vehicles. No problem at all. And in fact, they do a better job. I only showed them where the jack points were. I also had them install Dill TPM, and asked them to set the torque to 115#. I was out in 30 minutes. Good luck.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:38 AM   #3
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try a local place. or you could take the wheels in and tires in and not the entire trailer... oh your in tryon! Well, its a bit of a drive but Cowan Tire does all my tires. highly recommended.

edit: the 235's work on my globetrotter BUT they are too thick for a vintage double axle trailer and could be too tall... i have no idea how they will be on a newer trailer. if you want to come to our place you can try ours before committing. PM me.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:47 AM   #4
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The last 2 times I have taken the wheels off and to the tire shop. Saves worrying about how they are jacking it up. Here the Goodyear service shop I go to would have put them on but I preferred not to hook up and pull into their small lot.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:00 AM   #5
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Kiddoc1,

Are you sure you have the correct tire size? Other 27' & 28' have upgraded to 16" wheels and Michelin 16" tires which have the load capacity for you trailer. 15" would not have the load capacity for your trailer.

I just upgraded mine to 16". You can also see many threads on this forum that can give you advice on what they did to upgrade.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:02 AM   #6
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Just installed my new tires and wheels last night. Bought tires from simpletire.com ($175 ea no tax + 50 in shipping) and wheels from trailer-wheels.com ($93 ea no tax free shipping) Took them to my local shade tree and he mounted and balanced the set of three for $30. Walmart wanted $50+. I'd agree with Bill, easy to do yourself and peace of mind it was done correctly.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:06 AM   #7
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Kiddoc1,

Are you sure you have the correct tire size? Other 27' & 28' have upgraded to 16" wheels and Michelin 16" tires which have the load capacity for you trailer. 15" would not have the load capacity for your trailer.

I just upgraded mine to 16". You can also see many threads on this forum that can give you advice on what they did to upgrade.
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I'm not sure I would mount a "P" tire on the trailer, not even a Michelin.
Make sure of your load ratings.

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Old 06-07-2013, 10:16 AM   #8
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I had a kid at Sam's give me a hard time about the putting car tires on trailer rims. I brought in loose rims. They asked me what they came off of and I should have told him they came off an old pickup truck. He said he won't warrantee them. I said fine put them on the rims. I would not put an ST rated tire on anything accept my garbage trailer. Now what cars/trucks would have the 6 bolt 5.5" bolt circle? My advice is take in the loose rims and lie about what they came off off. I take in loose rims all the time because it takes them less time to mount and balance them. I can also leave them and come back if they are real busy.

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Old 06-07-2013, 10:43 AM   #9
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The 6x5.5(139.7mm) bolt pattern is the same as the Chevy '71-91 Suburban 4x4 6 lug pattern. From '92 onward it is found on the Denali, Tahoe, and Yukon 4x4s. It is also used on some of the older Chevy 2wd trucks, the '74-92 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, on almost all Toyota 4x4's, and a number of other Japanese mini-trucks.
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:23 AM   #10
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I bought mine at Costco in Minneapolis, and just brought the wheels in and they installed and balanced them with no problem. Then I installed them on the trailer at home.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:02 PM   #11
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I would not put the P metric Michelins on your trailer.You need to buy 16 inch wheels and put the LT Michelins with the E load rating along with metal valve stems.There is a good reason they wont install them on your trailer.
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Old 06-07-2013, 02:05 PM   #12
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Whether or not to run a P tire is a personal choice. The load ratings for the tire mentioned by the OP are 1985 lbs at 50 PSI. It is a P tire that runs at C load range tire pressures. That is after the Dot required derating of 10% for use on a trailer. On the sidewall it says 10% higher than that. It is a little confusing that the Michelin LTX is a P tire. My last set was a Michelin LTX that was a LT tire. But they stopped making them. The new LTX's I just put on are the P tire mentioned in the OP. I do not know what a 28' Safari weighs. My 25' Excella lists a gross axle weight of 6300 lbs. When I have weighed it it actually has 5800 lbs on the axles, so load capacity is good for me. I have steel wheels that I think will only take 50 psi, so I would have to run the C range GYM/s or under inflate the D GYM's. Neither of which I want to do. If someone is not really sure what tire they want and why then maybe they should just run the GYM's. On paper and reading specifications they look awful good for the application. Is it only an internet myth that they fail a lot? I personally do not think so. But they are cheap and you could replace them every couple of years or so. And of course the 16" Michelin LT's would carry plenty of load.

Apparantly the whole trailer industry is letting us down by staying with 15" wheels. My neighbor has a top of the line 5th wheel that came with 15" wheels and it is in the shop for repairs and to find the cause for 3 catastropic blowouts involving several thousand dollars repair each time and 1 or 2 tires on a side in 5 years and just a few thousand miles of pulling a year. He thinks it is something wrong with the trailer? I think it is the heavily loaded ST tires. He has been running 10 ply in several brands with not much good results.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #13
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I purchased and had them installed at a real tire store... A real store with real employees that really know tires. Watch them carefully though when they jack it up...most not experienced on Airstreams... Once I showed them the jacking points they installed them and I was on my way... No questions...
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:52 PM   #14
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It would be nice to see a crossection of the ST, LT, and P tires. If you look at the 3 tires from a weight standpoint the ST is the lightest and most flimsy.

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