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Old 09-10-2014, 02:42 PM   #1
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Hitch/Equalizer Advice Needed Touareg TDi w/ 23FB Flying Cloud

We just bought a 2015 Flying Cloud 23FB and are about to buy a 2012 or 2014 VW Touareg TDi. We live in Vancouver, BC so will be dealing with mountains on our travels.

What hitch is best for us?

Do we need an equalizer and if so, what would people advise?

The Touareg is the way to go if we don't want a truck, right? Mercedes suspension seems to count the ML 350 out and we heard its tongue weight max is too low.
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Or a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a diesel is about the same size. A Dodge Durango is slightly larger, but no diesel.

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We just bought a 2015 Flying Cloud 23FB and are about to buy a 2012 or 2014 VW Touareg TDi. We live in Vancouver, BC so will be dealing with mountains on our travels.

What hitch is best for us?

Do we need an equalizer and if so, what would people advise?

The Touareg is the way to go if we don't want a truck, right? Mercedes suspension seems to count the ML 350 out and we heard its tongue weight max is too low.
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Or a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a diesel is about the same size. A Dodge Durango is slightly larger, but no diesel.

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The Jeep seems to have the air suspension system and I had read that this gets confused by equalizer hitches. We were advised to get an equalizer hitch by several sales guys, to avoid damage to our shoulders from "managing" the trailer.
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The Jeep seems to have the air suspension system and I had read that this gets confused by equalizer hitches. We were advised to get an equalizer hitch by several sales guys, to avoid damage to our shoulders from "managing" the trailer.

I am currently dealing with that exact issue with my Jeep GC with the air suspension. I have spoken with the local dealership suspension guy and he had no answers for me. He is supposed to be contacting Jeep engineers and discuss the issue with them.

Not sure what you mean by - "advised to get an equalizer hitch by several sales guys, to avoid damage to our shoulders from "managing" the trailer."
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Not sure what you mean by - "advised to get an equalizer hitch by several sales guys, to avoid damage to our shoulders from "managing" the trailer."
Perhaps I am mixing up the terms here. The father of our car salesman damaged his shoulders towing (not an Airstream) because he was dealing with a lot of sway caused by wind on the highway. So the sales guy said for sure we would need an add-on to reduce this.

The Jeep site says they have Trailer Sway Dampening as standard on all Grand Cherokee models. Have you noticed its effect?
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I have never seen or felt any indication of the Jeep reacting to sway. I am not even sure what that indication would be.
Personally I take anything said or claimed by salesman with a large grain of salt. They all seem to have some rather ludicrous tales to support their claims.
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The Jeep site says they have Trailer Sway Dampening as standard on all Grand Cherokee models. Have you noticed its effect?
I have had Trailer Sway Control on several vehicles, not Jeep. The various systems all work the same, since they are not usually from the vehicle manufacturers, but rather from suppliers like Bosch and Continental. They use sensors on the tow vehicle (yaw, steering angle sensor) to detect extreme sway conditions, and apply individual tow vehicle brakes to supress it. It is not a substitute for a sway control device on a hitch; it is more of a safety net, IMO. In years of towing with my current vehicle, including on snow-covered roads, it has never engaged once. But I managed the tow vehicle and trailer (hitch weight, alignment, etc) so that the chances of extreme sway were greatly reduced.

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Get yourself a ProPride or Hensley...

They are not cheap new,,,, but they will mitigate any choice of tow vehicles that some may see as less than ideal.
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You do need anti-sway to dampen or eliminate (Hensley/ProPride) sway, and weight distribution to take some of the trailer weight off your Touareg rear axle and distribute it to the Touareg front axle, as well as some of it to the trailer axles.

The catch is the VW owners manual states not to use a weight distribution hitch on the Touareg. Search Touareg here, there is much discussion on it.

And the Touareg hitch may need reinforcement to use a weight distribution hitch. Call Andrew Thomson, towing expert at Can-Am Airstream in London, Ontario who does this routinely, for advice.
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I have had Trailer Sway Control on several vehicles, not Jeep. The various systems all work the same, since they are not usually from the vehicle manufacturers, but rather from suppliers like Bosch and Continental. They use sensors on the tow vehicle (yaw, steering angle sensor) to detect extreme sway conditions, and apply individual tow vehicle brakes to supress it. It is not a substitute for a sway control device on a hitch; it is more of a safety net, IMO. In years of towing with my current vehicle, including on snow-covered roads, it has never engaged once. But I managed the tow vehicle and trailer (hitch weight, alignment, etc) so that the chances of extreme sway were greatly reduced.

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Do you have a device you can recommend, Jeff? Do you think it essential?
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You're mixing the vehicle built in sway control with an add-on anti sway hitch or sway bar. The vehicles sway control reacts to sway after it starts by automatically applying brakes to stop the sway. An anti sway hitch or sway bar acts to PREVENT sway from occurring. Both are good.
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mojo! You're the Touareg expert here, help op.
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mojo! You're the Touareg expert here, help op.
Well thanks Doug, but there are a few here that will take issue with that!

But FWIW, I only have experience with Touaregs from 2004-2007, and am not familiar with the OEM hitches on the newer generation Touaregs. But the OEM hitches are very strong by themselves. The bracing that CanAm does is provided to help prevent any extraneous twisting or torque in dips and curbs. I have not had any problems without the bracing but I take it easy on these hazards.

However, you have to add up the REAL hitch weight of your trailer and how much stuff and people you carry in the car to determine whether you will push the payload limits beyond your level of comfort.

Any hitch with weight distribution will be fine. The manual for VW is written by Europeans where they do not use WD hitches, so that is why they advise against them.
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