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Old 04-12-2015, 10:18 PM   #29
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I would gladly use a 3/4-ton Suburban to tow a trailer. My preference would be a Excursion 7.3L PowerStroke, though, if I went that direction.
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:51 AM   #30
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:31 AM   #31
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While the 1500 certainly isn't an optimum tow vehicle for the big trailer (would prefer a 3/4 ton myself) the picture that Sobust has in #12 shows that it is being done with a half ton.
The 1200 lb utv plus the 600 or 700 lb hitch weight is being carried by the truck which is very likely over the "official" capacity of the truck. This stuff is done everyday by people who use their backs to make a living and make do with what they have. Not the best scenario but it happens.
I think the owner of the 35' Avion and 1500 truck needs some more hitch. I'm sure the driver of that rig would realize his limitations as the truck squirms down the road with light springs/p-metric tires.
I'm certain most folks here have seen pictures of the Airstream ad showing the Chevrolet Caprice sedan pulling the 34 triaxle Airstream back in the day. There couldn't be that much difference than the Avion.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:48 AM   #32
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I'm certain most folks here have seen pictures of the Airstream ad showing the Chevrolet Caprice sedan pulling the 34 triaxle Airstream back in the day. There couldn't be that much difference than the Avion.
If you had ever towed first an Airstream product, and then a similar sized Avion of similar vintage, both with the same tow vehicle, I believe you would not make that statement.
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:20 AM   #33
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While the 1500 certainly isn't an optimum tow vehicle for the big trailer (would prefer a 3/4 ton myself) the picture that Sobust has in #12 shows that it is being done with a half ton.
The key here is Sodbust's comment, "It all depends on how the 1500 is set up.. Our Tradesman is fitted with better springs than the normal town truck.. Its rated for a 10,000 lb. trailer."

It CAN be done, and I applaud Sodbust for going the extra mile to beef up his truck for the load carried. Not many do that, it seems.
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Old 04-13-2015, 12:44 PM   #34
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I'm picking up my new to me Avion next week and taking it to the shop for renovation, from out of state about a 500 mile trip. With my Ford Eco-Boost F150.

I am not getting another Hensley/Propride to do one trip. I will putter along at the slowest speed I can manage without driving everyone else on the road stark staring mad.

Know how to set up a Reese Dual Cam - any thoughts on what weight bars I should get for the Silver Suppository? (Perhaps to be named "The Winter Queen" since my main focus is to have a warmly insulated place over the winter. It will go to the mountains or Lake Gaston during the summer and to my winter quarters during the freeze - other than that I don't anticipate any long trips. The Eddie Bauer is going to get quite a workout as my mobile office and I'll be all over a 3 or 4 state area in it most of the time.

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Old 04-13-2015, 01:32 PM   #35
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I don't have a Reese Dual Cam, so I'll leave that one to others to answer.

I like "The Winter Queen" much better than the "Silver Suppository"!

Over time, you'll come to understand why Avions are so well-liked. I look forward to following your journey.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:30 PM   #36
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Personally I think the 1500 would be a lot better off if they'd tighten up the chains.

It may not be great, but it would at least be a lot better...
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:43 PM   #37
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I have the dual cam, also an e-z lift 4 point setup. I'm not a big fan of the dual cam. Even with multiple fine tuning it still feels like it is hunting down the road.


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Boy I hope my truck is big enough. Airsafe hitch
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30 years ago I was in Jackson Centre picking up a New 1985 34' with a 1985 Chev Caprice sedan. Stopped in at engineering to see what they were working on and low and behold there was 35' Avion there. They were doing some product comparisons. At that time Avion was out registering Airstream. They said we should hook your car up and see how it tows with the Caprice. So I set it all up and we took it out.

The Avion had a very strange suspension at the time. It was basically a box trailer live axle leaf spring set up with the axles cut off in the middle and hooked to a centre frame rail with a pivot point. It was a cheap independent suspension. (the Avion was about $7,000 less than an Airstream then.

It was not terrible aerodynamically the 155 HP Caprice was able to pull it along at 65 MPH however it was not as directionally as stable as the Airstream as in it wandered a little. I waited on the ramp of I75 until there was no traffic in site and thought I would try some lane changes. The first one I did was pretty mild compare with what I could do with a 34 Airstream. Glad it was mild because the Avion just took off and I used both lanes for a couple of swings, it took the trailer brakes to straighten it out. The three Airstream engineers who almost never towed trailers were a little shaken up. Needless to say I did not try any more quick lane changes with the Avion and I gingerly headed back to the factory.

On the way back they asked how the brakes were so I said well that will be safe enough to try. So I did a panic stop on one of the side roads. The brakes were not a problem but the door flew open and dented the side of the trailer.

They did not ask me to test drive anything for a while after that.

As for the one in the picture the hitch is the problem not the truck.

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You can fiddle with a 1/2-ton truck pulling a 34' Avion as much as you want.... have fun!
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:35 PM   #41
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I have the original owners manual for my 75 Overlander. On the front cover is a drawing of about a 75 big Olds or Pontiac wagon hooked up to it. .
It would have the cubes to pull it but not nearly the suspension package that even a 1500 would have. And as said, the trailer brakes should be adequate to stop itself. Also look at some old photos of the WBBCA caravans and you'll see nary a pickup in the bunch. There's nothing wrong with a bit of overkill but a 1500 is a pretty substantial TV after all.


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