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Old 12-03-2012, 08:05 AM   #29
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Or, you could sell the Hensley and buy a ProPride which comes with the adjustable stinger.

$$$$$$....if there is ever a need to buy a new hitch, I will definitely get a Propride, but there is nothing wrong right now which a $~225 stinger won't fix.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:08 PM   #30
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Or, you could sell the Hensley and buy a ProPride which comes with the adjustable stinger.
Oh, I don't think the adjusting stinger will make an H/A into a PP . . but it'll get me down the road properly. I need a new TT first, SteveH

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Old 12-06-2012, 12:10 PM   #31
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Here is another neat little trick you can do with your adjustable stinger - add mudflaps that are quickly removable.
I adjusted the stinger to be close to level when without the trailer. This seems to make hooking up easier.


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Old 03-07-2013, 07:41 AM   #32
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Sean now has the HAHA Adjustable stinger up on his website ready for delivery. He made up only 10 pieces to test the market...and I know 4 are spoken for.

I ordered mine yesterday about 1PM, and true to Sean's service, it was with UPS by 3PM.

Look under "Hitches" or the new products sidebar on the home page if you're interested.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:18 AM   #33
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After the suspension work on the TV, I found the Hensley 2" drop worked for me and both vehicles are level. The adjustable unit would not have lined up as well due to the hole spacing for the "adjustable" feature.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:48 AM   #34
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Ordered mine today.

And, since the post above, have a new TT, a 35' 1990 SILVER STREAK.

Haven't measured yet, but the combined rig is likely to be right against the 65' Texas RV length limit. This hitch type makes for much easier TT steering control when it is so easy to otherwise accidentally twitch that tail -- so very far back there -- across a lane stripe.

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Old 03-27-2013, 04:00 PM   #35
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Finally got to the mail center to pick mine up yesterday (box arrived over a week ago). Ship weight was 58#. Packaging was stout, near ideal: nothing loose whatsoever. Welds and paint all look very good. Fasteners all in heavy plastic bag with packing list.

I haven't decided when to take the TT the 20-miles over to the CAT Scale at Robstown, TX as TT tires/wheels and/or truck hitch receiver may change as well as truck suspension. I do need to get the thing roughed in pretty well what with hurricane season on the way. So, sometime in the next 60-90 days. Trailer suspension changes, if done, would be done later. So I expect to have a permanent-for-the-interim ball height and hitch receiver height.

I guess one of us (at least) needs to find the weight increase over the HA stinger. And length increase. I'm guessing I'm pushing hard on the Texas RV length limit of 65' already. The gap between TV tailgate and TT front wall was at 60" until the latest hitch receiver was installed.

Once I have changes to TT & TV done (a year or more off) then I may have an HA stinger modified for a lighter package. This new assembly is now a permanent part of the H/A. Guess I'll have to build a crate to hold the entirety of the HA for the truck bed cause the plastic tub ain't a gettin' it no more.

I'll be ordering a SHERLINE weight gauge soon as part of the TT WD setup.

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:06 PM   #36
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I don't really have any horse in this race as the stinger I have matches my truck well, and as long as I have the AS, I will likely have a similar sized truck.

However, for what it is worth I just got a newsletter from Hensley warning against
adjustable hitches. Do not provide the requires safety factor they sy.

Could be just hype for what they sell .... or maybe not! I don't know. I did contact Hensley a year or two back on this issue (before I exchanged the one I had on my smaller TV) and asked why they did not make an adjustable stinger. At that time they told me they had looked at the idea but rejected it from a safety factor standpoint.


Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice I guess!


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From everything I've read and people I've talked to, I'm not interested in an adjustable stinger. Just sayin'.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:48 PM   #38
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However, for what it is worth I just got a newsletter from Hensley warning against
adjustable hitches. Do not provide the requires safety factor they sy.
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I would expect nothing less from Hensley.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:22 PM   #39
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I would expect nothing less from Hensley.

Well, As I say, not taking sides, just don't know (despite being a retired Mech eng. - no inclination to get the text books again out at this point and try to figure it out!)

I admit I would be tempted to switch to adjustable if I needed a different height, but then, I would also have some concern about the advice given by the hitch manufacturer.

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Old 03-27-2013, 06:36 PM   #40
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Ya know, I promised myself I'd stay out of this discussion...but I can't. I actually have a dog in both hunts, as I have a HAHA and a PP adjustable stinger. I also got the HAHA newsletter and several thing strike me on this subject.

1) The timing of the adjustable stinger article. It is also on HAHAs website, but I don't know for how long.

2) The public "discussion" between the two companies is well known and ongoing, and actually (for me) distasteful.

3) I find the claims in the HAHA stance concerning adjustable stingers questionable. for the following reasons:
A) The HAHA drop stinger is three 2" bars welded together and reinforced with two 1/4" side plates welded on. The PP drop adjustable stinger is two 2" bars welded together and the vertical bar is sandwiched between two 1/2" (twice as thick) side plates; clamped together with three grade eight 5/8" bolts. I question if there is any appreciable difference in strength which would have any bearing within the normal operating parameters of either hitch setup.
B) Many hitch manufacturers have been using adjustable heads to drawbar setups for years with, and without, sway control.

One of the arguments presented is that because with a PPP hitch, the trailer can't "bend" the rig around the ball (pivot) in a side wind scenario for example. The position taken by HAHA is that a side wind causes so much more stress, laterally, on the stinger that an adjustable stinger would fail. I find this to be BUNK. The lateral forces in a side wind are the same for all sway control hitches. I NEVER had my Reese dual cam ever pop off center due to any side wind....therefore my Reese (bolted together) head and drawbar were taking the twisting effort of the wind blown trailer just fine. (The calculated forces relative to windspeed and side area are interesting, but of little real world use, as the tire sidewalls take the vast majority of the applied wind force...unless you are on ice). When was the last time you looked in your rearview mirror and saw a really dog legged TT/TV setup with a good sway controlled setup? If you have.....should you have really been on the road?

Now if the trailer was broadsided by another vehicle, I can see a PPP hitch taking A LOT of side force on the stinger.....but is welded better than 3 grade 8s with larger side plates? I don't know. But I do know, if this happens, I got much bigger worries than if my stinger bends or breaks.

What say you all?
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Do other bolt together heads come apart? Probably some have, some where. Is it likely? I'd say it's a non-starter altogether.

Since Hensley isn't interested in providing a better range of stingers, or their own adjustable, I'll work with what I can. And I'm happy to try the PRO PRIDE adjustable as my two vehicles will undergo changes.

I'm certainly not interested in "exchanging" stingers with every change. I've not the luxury of time nor unlimited funds in respect to my work demands and the problems of where I live (Gulf Coast).

The HA does what it promises: zero sway. Love that aspect. It's why I bought it in th first place. And tested it violently on the Interstate immediately afterwards from shoulder to median and back again; throttle on at 55+. And again. And again. Couldn't shake it any more than one can lose ones shadow. Day One, Hour Two of my 30-Day money back guarantee.

But it's still secondary to getting a genuinely heavy TW distributed over the [4] axles of the combined rig. A level Interstate is okay for speed tests, but not for that long lever hitting the rear axle on a bad road. In the rain. With traffic. All while feeling ill, you-name-it.

A level trailer is acceptable. Other attitudes are not, IMO.

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