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Old 04-26-2011, 09:58 PM   #1
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Got a Ticket for not having Extended Mirrors

Pulling my 06 FB Se Safari with my Lexus GX470 from Houston to Orlando to see the mouse in April. Went 990 miles on a 1000 mile trip when pulled over by Florida State Trooper. Evidently my
Lexus SUV mirrors didn't give me enough angle to see 200 feet past my vehicle. Ticket $116. could fight it in court with proof of compliance with law. Or hire a lawyer to do so being a Texan. I know times are bad in Florida but...
So to clarify, what are the real laws on mirrors and distance you have to see? Does it vary from state to state? Who else has been ticketed? And what are the best solutions for add ons to SUVs?

Bought a cheap clip on mirror for one side ( I was halfway complying ) and almost ran 2 people off the road before realizing the huge blind spot now next to my car. Been thousands of miles now across many states and never been stopped for this one before. Guess I better pay the ticket....
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:45 PM   #2
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That is just a real crock. He should have just given you a warning. Save the ticketing for serious problems like somebody towing a fifth wheel with a 1/2 ton truck.

I assume he means that when he positions himself 200 ft behind your trailer that he could not see your mirror, therefore you could not see him. I wonder how good he was at positioning himself 200 ft behind your trailer. How did he measure the distance? You could fight it but not realistically. Just highway robbery; and a learning experiance for the rest of us on the forum. Sorry for you.

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Old 04-27-2011, 01:39 AM   #3
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Sorry Rich, but I've got to agree with the law enforcement officer on this one. It's amazing how often I drive down the road & see someone towing a trailer of any kind without proper mirrors. Look down the side of the trailer when they are in front of you. You cannot see any of their mirror. Ever see on a big rig the sticker "If you can't see my mirror, I can't see you". The whole purpose of having mirrors is so you can see what's behind you, not just what's on side of you. I don't want to be a party pooper but I wish LEO would give out more of these tickets.

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Old 04-27-2011, 06:32 AM   #4
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We got a warning on the outskirts of LA for the same thing and I pleaded with the officer to just let us leave his town. He said he was behind us for two miles with his lights going and we didn't see him. I then asked if he had the siren going and he got pretty defensive. So, we got a warning and got to leave.
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So the officer is upset that you don't know he is there when he wants to pull you over. All he needs to do is drop back a bit and/or turn on his siren. Seeing what is beside you is a major safety benefit. I don't see a major safety benefit to seeing what is 200 feet behind you.

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Old 04-27-2011, 07:12 AM   #6
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I don't need extended mirrors because my '59 Tradewind has "See-Thru Safe Rear Vision" system provided by Airstream.

But I still hang the add-on mirrors because I can see down both sides of the trailer with them.

It's just common sense, even without an ordinance.
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Old 04-27-2011, 07:21 AM   #7
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Each state has its own laws. It would seem our legislative committee at WBCCI could look into this and provide some guidance to our members. I do not have overly large mirrors and question the necessity to keep that much attention on something that has happened over 200 feet behind me. I mostly worry about the drivers in front of me and those passing me too closely. You really need to be aware of everything. Troopers out to just make money are another distraction. In Illinois you can not have a transparent cover over your license plate. That is a new one they are using to help fund the state deficit.
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I think it's bull. there is nothing you can do about something 200 ft. behind you on the highway. You couldn't hit it if you tried. And you have no control over what it's going to do. Its one more distraction from what you SHOULD be looking at, which is in front of you, and alongside you. You know, things you can actually hit.

Should you be monitoring the airspace directly above you, too? You can't hit that, either. But a cop could be there, too.


Mirrors are good for some backing up operations, but most people I know look back over their shoulder when backing up. In any case, that's not on the public right of way.
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If you can't stand behind your trailer, look down the side and see the mirror, it is not out far enough.
Perhaps a warning would be more appropriate but the officer is correct that it is an unsafe situation creating a larger than normal blind spot. Convex accessory mirrors are also necessary for safe towing.
The see thru feature of the Air stream does nothing to help with traffic nearby in neighboring lanes
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What, specifically, is unsafe about not being able to see immediately behind your trailer at 60 mph? would it stop something from falling off?
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With all the states in financial trouble we will all see more of this chicken **** law enforcement. I am sure the local cops have been instructed to do this. The need to make more money for the local government from tourists from another state as they are less likely to fight these questionable tickets.
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What, specifically, is unsafe about not being able to see immediately behind your trailer at 60 mph? would it stop something from falling off?

There is no need to see immediately behind your trailer. This can't be done with outside mirrors anyway. There is a need to see all of both sides of your trailer, and ideally part of your tires also. Even with wide mirrors there is a blind spot as a vehicle comes up next to you that can only be seen in convex mirrors.
I have done hundreds of thousands of miles taking new trailers to dealers and experience bears this out. Particularly on multi lane highways.

I can assure you that no transport company would hire any one with out proper mirrors.

Improper mirrors are admittedly one of my pet peeves and were I in law enforcement probably one of the things I would be tough on.
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:01 AM   #13
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Ya, just pay the ticket and get a good set of mirrors so you comply.
I don't think that trying to fight a safety issue will get you anywhere.
All in all that was a cheap ticket. And if you were involved in an accident and he noticed the mirrors, I'll bet it could have been a lot more and maybe even other tickets added on to it.
Count yourself lucky!
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Thanks for the heads up! We tried adding clip on towing mirrors when we first bought our unit in 2004. They were horrible, as they vibrated and objects looked blurry in the mirror so we took them off. We found them to be more of a distraction than help. Now... I guess this will force us to try again. Any suggestions for the BEST towing mirrors?

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