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Old 02-12-2017, 08:30 AM   #15
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There are many who wouldn't consider towing a 30' International with anything less than a 3/4 ton diesel, much less a Jeep Cherokee. By doing a pretty violent emergency maneuver with a Jeep Cherokee towing a 30' International and not jack knifing, rolling the entire unit and maintaining control Andrew has proved that what others wouldn't attempt is possible, and not a hazard; just like the jet roll in a commercial airliner.

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The 6 cyl Jeep Cherokee with a factory tow package is rated at 4500#. I don't expect this information to change any views on this thread, just wanted to update some info. (in other words, here we go again).

Thanks Andy for your post. I've actually been thinking about a new TV for my 16' Bambi, and the Cherokee is very interesting.
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Sorry I am so long getting back to this thread.

Once modified the hitch on the Cherokee is considerably stronger than the factory hitch on say an F150 or Chev Suburban Etc. The reason it is stronger is that we are spreading the load over a much larger area of the chassis. On a hitch you get strength with distance, the further you spread the loads the stronger the installation is.

One note in the case of the Cherokee with higher hitch weights we do install a smaller spare tire so we have room for the strengthening. It easily handles the hitch weight of the 27FB that it was towing.

The tow rating of the Cherokee is actually 4500 pounds but it is not nearly as capable a tow vehicle as the 300 which is 1000 pounds, it is a considerably better tow vehicle in every respect than a 4Runner rated for 5000 pounds.

The Cherokee is not a good tow vehicle for a 3000 pound square box trailer due to the additional aerodynamic drag.
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On Monday we returned from Ottawa in the opposite conditions. We had a strong front corner crosswind of 17-23 MPH. We had to wait to leave Ottawa because there was 30 Centimeters (12") of snow overnight. The staff was anxious to get home so though it would have been logical to run slower we ran the same 110 KPH back to London. So you could call this worst case mileage.

The 3 smaller Airstreams were shipped back on a float so other than the 300 and the Diesel truck the combinations changed. The 300's fuel economy changed a surprisingly small amount which makes me wonder if it was filled all the way. This was over 239 Kilometers. Even with the 8 speed it did tow in the same gear in both directions.

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Thanks Andy ..... appreciate the information. Someday we'll have to drop in to thank you in person. Pat
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Regarding Hills, here are a few pictures.

Appellation Gap in Vermont, Mercedes Diesel and 34', Taurus SHO and 30 2 miles of 15% grade.

Independence Pass Colorado 12,100' two lane road the back way to Aspen. 1987 Olds 88 3.8 Litre

Davis Dam hill used by SAE for testing 12 miles of 6% Grade. 3.6 Litre 300, 28 International

Cadillac Seville 30' Classic Ice Fields Centre Alberta, Sea to Sky highway at Pemberton. 3 Miles of 15% grade followed by 7 miles of 11%
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