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Old 08-09-2016, 11:03 AM   #1
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Frying Pan into the Fire, towing question

We are on the verge of purchasing a 2015 25FB Flying Cloud for both aesthetic and towing reasons but I'm not sure the towing will be any safer/better. The current trailer is longer, taller, and heavier than the AS and I don't like being blown around by big trucks and prairie winds. I'm confident the AS would be a better towing experience.

However, the AS published hitch weight is about 100 lbs. more than my current trailer. As it is with the loaded truck and trailer, I only have about 200 lbs of available cargo in the truck before I max out the GVWR. I'm afraid the AS will hit the max and not allow anything in the back of the truck.

Does anyone have experience or advice other than purchasing a beefier truck?
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:34 AM   #2
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What are you towing with?

Keep in mind the published tongue weight is less gas bottle and maybe even the electric jack.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:39 AM   #3
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I have the very same Airstream, a 2015 Flying Cloud 25FB. My ready to camp tongue weight is just under 1,000#. I am towing with a Hensley Arrow which adds about 150# of tongue weight over an Equalizer.

Before this Airstream, we had a 2005 Safari 25FB which is virtually the same as the 2015. It also had a tongue weight north of 900#.

The spec hitch weight of 837# does not include the weight of your weight distribution/anti sway hitch system or LP gas in the tanks.

You don't mention what type of hitch you are using or what type of tow vehicle you are using.

There are some things that you could consider before going to a beefier tow vehicle, but we need more information before we can make any suggestions.

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Old 08-09-2016, 12:45 PM   #4
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It's not straight-forward math to determine how much weight a trailer adds to the tow vehicle. Our Airstream factory hitch weight spec is 835 lbs empty, our ProPride hitch weighs 180 lbs, we add enough gear in our Airstream for six months travel a year.

Weighing our loaded truck solo, then again with the Airstream and weight distribution set, the loaded Airstream and ProPride hitch add only 840 lbs to our truck.

Research Hensley/ProPride hitches and find out why you won't be blown around by semi's and cross-winds on the highway, among other advantages in towing comfort and safety.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:54 PM   #5
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You asked for data - here it is.
I am towing with a 2013 F150 EB 3.5L, 3.31 ratio
The GVWR is 7200
The GCWR is 15,100
The truck with people in it is 6140 (this includes the WDH & sway bar but not other camping stuff)
When weighed with my current trailer with WDH the truck was 6980 and the trailer was 5760. (The trailer wasn't fully loaded)
The published hitch rating on my current trailer is 708
The published hitch rating of a 25FB w/batteries and LP is 837

Maximum truck tow rating is 9200
Husky WDH with sway bar
1050 Maximum tongue weight with WDH
Thanks for all of the help.
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Old 08-09-2016, 03:10 PM   #6
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Wesair,

I think you will be very happy with your 25FB. We have been and have towed ours just slightly over 30K miles with our Tundra. I have weighed mine twice over the years and have found that the TW is right at 1000 pounds. I travel with the propane bottles pretty full, have two batteries and the spare tire. These factors really add up. I do believe that this "extra" weight is a big part of the stability of the Airstream. We have an Equalizer like we did on our previous SOB. The difference is night and day, especially when dealing with high winds and passing semis. You won't feel them now, at least by comparison.

There are a lot of folks here that tow a 25 with a half ton. I think they are a good match but you do have to be careful about the weight capacity of your truck. If you plan to carry most of your house with you when you travel then you might want to shop for a larger TV. We have been happy with our setup. Good luck.
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Your truck and Airstream are an excellent match. I think it's going to come down to what load you carry in the bed of the truck, and for best results most of that should be forward of the rear axle. Carrying gear in the Airstream rather than the truck is useful when reasonable.

Our truck is similar and is a terrific tow vehicle for our Airstream, here is how we often load the truck bed.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:02 PM   #8
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Thanks for the feedback and the encouragement. We will do the deal tomorrow.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:37 PM   #9
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The Airstream will tow better with the same truck and hitch setup due to its better suspension and aerodynamic shape.
You will also get 2 mpg more when towing your Airstream trailer.
It's amazing.
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We get along just fine with our 05 Safari 25' & 1/2 ton Silverado; 5.3 / 3:42 tow package: BOSP hitch. Pulling @ 62mph it's rock solid hills & flats. Our gas mileage ranges from 11.5 to 14 mpg. ( 20 empty ) We looked at heavier trucks but decided the 1/2 ton worked best for us overall. Good luck on your final decision.
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