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Old 02-02-2017, 05:16 PM   #15
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From reading the F150 forums it sounds like to clotus system basically doesn't work. If you have the VIN number try this: http://researchmaniacs.com/Ford/Trac...CarOrders.html

I think you can get your build date.

I went full HDP which meant 6.5' bed. I'm not super crazy about the length, but mine is 2wd which means my payload should be north of 2,300 lbs. I'll also a nice safety factor since the rear axle is rated at 4,800 lbs.
Well, once you have a VIN and your window sticker is released you can get your window sticker image off the ResearchManiacs site, and that has the build date on the top line above the word "BLEND" (mine is scheduled to be built next Tuesday, 7 Feb for example.) When your dealer gets your VIN, they'll have the scheduled build week at that point.

I think it's worth checking the secondary COTUS site (http://wwwqa.cotusa.ford.com) because that one showed my truck about 10 days after I ordered it, and showed the scheduled build date and lots of configuration info so I could feel good about the order having been entered properly. It showed the move into "In Production" status a day before the window sticker became available at the ResearchManiacs site. Probably on Monday or Tuesday the information for my truck in Ford's ETIS site will start getting updated too.
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:21 PM   #16
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Do yourself a favor and rent an F150 for a day to drive it. The dealer test drives leave a lot to be desired and you find things out after the 2nd day on a 6% grade that you didn't appreciate on the 10-min circle around the dealer. Having a really hard time making this decision myself and appreciate the suggestions & posts shown above. Leaning towards just getting the 250 Diesel and calling it a day because once you are in the 150 crew cab size, you just aren't parking this thing anywhere you want and the speed and load capacities jump considerably.
If you're unsure about one truck or another but sure you're going to buy soon, good dealerships will work an overnight or 24-hr test drive on a demo they don't mind putting some miles on (e.g. take a truck out on Saturday evening and return it Monday in TX, where dealerships can't be open consecutive Saturdays and Sundays.) If you're going to test towing, you probably shouldn't tell the dealer or they'll balk. The problem with this, of course, is that dealers rarely have a well-configured tow vehicle on their lots in the 150/1500 class, because they want you to buy their HD trucks.
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Thanks. Good to know the cotus site does work. Of course now I'll be checking that ever hour waiting to see my truck!

Oh and I did exactly what you just suggested. Brought trucks home for test runs with the AS. The dealers were very accommodating.
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F150 with Max Trailer Tow Package

Note, I am also looking for new F150. I currently own a 2012 Platinum SuperCrew, short bed, echoboost, 4x4 with 104K miles. I love most everything about this truck, but the payload is too small. I am looking at a 2017 loaded up Lariat 4x4, 10speed, Echoboost, Supercrew, shortbed model with Max Trailer Tow Package, which gives you 36 gal tank, 3.55 rear end, backup assist, break controller, upgraded front stabilizers, and few more things. I don't need/want the sunroof, not sure about the 20" wheels or 18" yet, but not a big deal. Payload for this configuration on paper, says 2,030lbs. If I go with this package, I will be happy if I can get close to or above 1800lbs payload! If their specs are correct, this package should make it. Can't get there with Platinum, King Ranch, or Limited...

I never checked my Platinum payload till I got "educated" after towing my 25' FB twin AS for a year....it works fine for us, but I am mindful that I currently only have a 1030 payload in my Platinum, and that ain't good!

By the way, the 5.6 bed is great for us. The F150 Echoboost is a great truck to drive when towing or not towing! The new added torque/hp/and 10speed trany makes it very, very, attractive!
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That's a good number of miles on your current 150. Any feedback on the ecoboost in terms of quality or problems? Have been concerned about the turbo six from that standpoint.
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Gypsydad: I waited and waited... I considered waiting for the 2018 to give them a year to sort the 10-speed software, but I was really starting to get the itch at the end of 2016, to the point that I was considering replacing my car instead of the truck because I "needed" something new. (Car is 12 years old, truck is 10... I don't really NEED both, but both are way behind the curve on modern features, etc.) Then they showed a peek at the new 2018 grille and I ordered a 2017.

Actually, I looked pretty hard for a leftover 2016 that was at least close. I (or rather my salescritter)_found a 6.5' bed with max tow and the mirrors in an acceptable color (Ruby Red, similar to my current truck instead of the Blue Jeans I really want) but in the end that extra foot of truck plus some extra payload-sucking features on that one made it worth it to me to spend 3 or 4 grand more to get exactly what I want in a '17.
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That's a good number of miles on your current 150. Any feedback on the ecoboost in terms of quality or problems? Have been concerned about the turbo six from that standpoint.
I have been back and forth on keeping it at 100K+ miles ; Wife of course, wants me to keep it. It has been surprisingly reliable, very comfortable, reasonable MPG, great power/torque, and only issues I have had were in 110+ heat, pulling the AS at 65-70mph outside Vegas on long, steep grade, where the EB turbo gauge went to red hot. I slowed down to 45-50 up the rest of the grade, and it cooled right down. Once you understand how turbos react in very hot climates you can adjust speed when towing. But really, how often are you driving in 110-118?

For towing, it has been very remarkable. I do change oil at 6K-8K miles with Ford service. Some of the "experts" I have talked with who know this engine, confirm few problems if you stay up on regular oil changes. No turbo issues; I did have a plug foul this past summer at 95K that scared me, but it was no big deal...diagnostic check at Ford found problem in less then a minute; they replaced plugs, tuned into specs, and I was on the road in 45 min. I will likely get the new one in Spring.. with 10speed...
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Gypsydad: I waited and waited... I considered waiting for the 2018 to give them a year to sort the 10-speed software, but I was really starting to get the itch at the end of 2016, to the point that I was considering replacing my car instead of the truck because I "needed" something new. (Car is 12 years old, truck is 10... I don't really NEED both, but both are way behind the curve on modern features, etc.) Then they showed a peek at the new 2018 grille and I ordered a 2017.

Actually, I looked pretty hard for a leftover 2016 that was at least close. I (or rather my salescritter)_found a 6.5' bed with max tow and the mirrors in an acceptable color (Ruby Red, simWjar to my current truck instead of the Blue Jeans I really want) but in the end that extra foot of truck plus some extra payload-sucking features on that one made it worth it to me to spend 3 or 4 grand more to get exactly what I want in a '17.
That is exciting! Please keep us posted on your mileage and experiences pulling the AS....Which model and was it 4x4? What other options did you get and what is payload?
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That is exciting! Please keep us posted on your mileage and experiences pulling the AS....Which model and was it 4x4? What other options did you get and what is payload?
Well I don't know the exact payload yet because I won't have the truck for a few weeks yet, but I expect it to be around 1800 lb for my 4x4. Here's the window sticker (no, I'm not paying that much!)
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Well I don't know the exact payload yet because I won't have the truck for a few weeks yet, but I expect it to be around 1800 lb for my 4x4. Here's the window sticker (no, I'm not paying that much!)


I'm completely envious! It looks like the ideal truck. Lots of cool technology, great town capabilities, and a heated steering wheel for those cold mornings. Take a picture of the door sticker when it comes in!
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Well I don't know the exact payload yet because I won't have the truck for a few weeks yet, but I expect it to be around 1800 lb for my 4x4. Here's the window sticker (no, I'm not paying that much!)
David, I just did a similar Lariat build and the dealer discounted it almost 2% off the sticker price. Would you mind letting us know how you did on your price? [PM if you wish]

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David, I just did a similar Lariat build and the dealer discounted it almost 2% off the sticker price. Would you mind letting us know how you did on your price? [PM if you wish]

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Not sure about where you are, but my dealer is telling me around $10-11K discount; I got my 2012 for $12K discount last time....I am pushing him (Ford) for more as the GM guys I used in the past are offering $13K discount right now on 2017 1500 LTX....loaded. Best way to get this ball rolling with a dealer is to start with the internet guy or manager on the phone...waste of time to go down there and let them work you over. Only go once your in the ball park of what you want to pay... my 2 cents...
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Well I don't know the exact payload yet because I won't have the truck for a few weeks yet, but I expect it to be around 1800 lb for my 4x4. Here's the window sticker (no, I'm not paying that much!)
I think that has most everything I would want...I see they threw in the Front License Plate Bracket also at no charge!

Let us know about the payload...think you can verify that early on some site? Also, I would be very interested to see your experiences once it arrives and you are pulling.

Anyone taken delivery yet of the new F150 and used it with your AS? If so, please post....
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David, I just did a similar Lariat build and the dealer discounted it almost 2% off the sticker price. Would you mind letting us know how you did on your price? [PM if you wish]

Thanks,

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Roughly 7% off sticker. I qualify for the X-plan (which is relatively easy to qualify for... membership in the Mustang club, the EAA, working for several partner and vendor companies, or in my case owning 100+ shares of Ford stock for at least 6 months before the purchase.) That's the X-plan offer price, so someone willing to spend all day fighting over a buck or two can go a little better, it boils down to invoice price plus $100 for documentation plus whatever your state charges for tax and licensing fees.

X-plan is good for custom orders, because the dealer has no skin in the game. They can just choose not to order if a buyer wants to pay an unreasonably low price, where an in-inventory unit costs them floor plan every month, and there are often offers that are for in-inventory vehicles only, etc. So you generally pay a bit more for ordering, but you get just what you want rather than compromising on other aspects of the vehicle.

There's more room for negotiation on stuff like your trade and if you want a service and/or maintenance plan.
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