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Old 04-14-2015, 03:14 PM   #71
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Hi, I'm going from my Lincoln's 119" wheel base to my new F-150's 145" wheel base; Time will tell if I feel a difference besides turning.
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:30 PM   #72
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My 2015 F350 truck has a 172.4 wheelbase and turns fine (after a slight learning curve).
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:20 PM   #73
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It will tow fine. I tow with a standard cab version the 28W length with no issues what-so-ever.; and have a full ton of cargo weight to spare.
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:40 PM   #74
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Ok peeps I get a call today from the dealer telling me they will sell me their one truck, meeting my requirements on the lot- 2015 f150 King Ranch 3.5L Eco 4x4 for employee price and give me a good deal on my trade if I just come in. I check the window sticker on the truck online and it has everything I want but... No mention of tow package etc. it does have brake controller, smart tow connector, etc. According to the tow guide the payload is 2020 lbs for all 3.5 4x4 models and the tow rating is 10,700 lbs. so, is there an issue for selecting it?
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Old 04-17-2015, 12:54 PM   #75
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Yes some times the towing guides only list the max payload for the most stripped down truck. You will need to look at the door sticker on that model and take into consideration any dealer added accessories.
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Old 04-17-2015, 01:08 PM   #76
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Past 125" is not too relevant. The curve flattens out on this. Same as with vehicle weight. Past 4500-lbs and little is gained by increases.

A Dodge Charger sits on an approx 120" wheelbase and weighs 4700-lbs. It'll smoke a pickup pulling an Airstream in pretty much any category.
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The King Ranch will probably have about 1500lbs of payload showing on the door payload sticker but that is a guess after looking at XLTs with only 1700lbs. Ford lowered the GVWR ratings on the 2015.

I'm giving up on 2015 F150. Ford just bumped the prices up and the payload expectations didn't realize on the 2015s. The only way to get close to 2000lbs is Supercab XLT. Ford isn't building anything with HD Payload Package yet.

I'll keep my 2010 Tundra a while longer.

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Well, it wasn't to be at least on that truck. They just sold it! That was quick.

Kelvin, I am not sure what you are looking at for towing and payload. This year Ford joined Toyota in using SAE standards and it is now reported that they have the highest towing and payload capacity of any half-ton. Oh and as of the 16th the highest safety rating- all five stars in every test. I totally agree with you on the 2014 and payload rating. The new trucks gained that 700-800 lbs in payload for the most part from their now lighter weight. A standard super crew 3.5 has a payload of 2020lbs minus the extra weight of the trim model chosen- fancier is heavier. The XLT is the payload champ then it drops as you pick up heavier features like extra fuel tank, etc.
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My Tundra has 1465lbs of payload with a 6900 GVWR. The 2014 F150s with 157" wb had 7700lbs GVWR. 2015s have a max of 7050 GVWR without HD Payload Pkg. I test drove a 2014 XLT SCrew 4x4 157" wb with max tow pkg and trailer mirros, leather and its door payload sticker showed 1745lbs or close to that. I decided to wait for the 2015s hoping to get close to 2000lbs without HD payload but only the Supercab XLT come close. I don't like the suicide doors of Ford's supercab. Compared to Tundra's Double cab and other manufacturers extended cabs its kinda an archaic design.

My main reason to go with Ford was to get 4x4, 35 gal tank. Now Ford has doubled the price of the extended range tank to $400. The 2014 F150 I drove was selling for 35k before negotiations. Maybe I missed the boat on that one but didn't like Blue Jeans color and figured an extra 300lbs payload wasn't worth spending $30k+. Its kinda ridiculous when you see $50k MSRP for a mid level trimmed XLT, makes my head spin.

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Past 125" is not too relevant. The curve flattens out on this. Same as with vehicle weight. Past 4500-lbs and little is gained by increases.

A Dodge Charger sits on an approx 120" wheelbase and weighs 4700-lbs. It'll smoke a pickup pulling an Airstream in pretty much any category.
Yes, but where do you put the generator, fire wood, bikes, and 150 gallon water blivet in a Charger?
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Yes, but where do you put the generator, fire wood, bikes, and 150 gallon water blivet in a Charger?

The usual dilemma. Don't think I'll ever be caught carrying firewood, but there is likely something I'd rather carry.
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a note to Kelvin...

I am in the same quandry you are, I currently tow my 25' AS with a Tundra double cab. This is my second one, the first was a 07 that went 120,000 trouble free miles. Currently I have 55, 000 miles on my 12. I have been looking at the new Ford, but I don't want the double cab version because of the antiquated door design. I have been on the Ford website and I can't seem to get what I want for under the low to mid $50,000. I want cloth seats (that look really cheap in a $50 k truck) and options like tow mirrors are tied to some expensive flood lights. The larger fuel tank has priced much higher than last years Ford. Guess I will just buy new tires for the Tundra, it runs great, pulls the trailer fine, and still gets 11.5 mpg with the trailer on the back and two kayaks on the truck cap. Even with the family discount the Ford seems like it will be a lot of money, and it doesn't appear from what I'm reading that it gets much better mpg's than I am currently getting--at least when towing. I see there is a rumor that the Ford will get a better transmission with more gears in the next year or two, and unforunatly, Toyota that has gone downhill starting with the 14 model, will not be upgraded much until 2018--if they continue to make it at all anymore. In the meantime, I'm counting on the continued reliability of Toyota to make up for the propable better mileage of the Ford not pulling. I know I could buy a lot of gas with the difference with the Toyota I could live with and the Ford I'd want. Toyota, add an intgreated brake controler, a larger fuel tank option and bring back the 25-30 little things you've been quietly deleating since 07 and I'd be a happier camper. Keep at it Kelvin, we may get an improved towing truck yet.
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I have a 3/4 ton for other reasons, but I have a friend who owns a F150 ecoboost. He has pulled his 9000#, 32' SOB, 1000's of miles with no issue or regret. He does have a propride. I would not hesitate to buy one, if it met my other needs.
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Ford isn't isn't treating the 2015s differentials and drive shafts with any paint or sealant so new owners are seeing surface rust on these parts even on special orders fresh off the delivery trucks. Others are complaining of door fit issues.

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