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Old 02-06-2015, 11:12 AM   #29
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Hi, today at the Portland Auto Show, the two 2015 Platinums had about 1,500 lbs payload rating. Still a lot better than the 2014 model that I saw in the dealer show room with 1,065 lbs payload.
I think Platinums only come in the 145"WB with the short bed. Were those Platinums 7000 GVWR?

So an XLT or Lariat will probably be around 1700lbs, still not enough for me to switch from my 1465lb payload on my Tundra.

Guess the HD Payload Pkg is still needed to tow 25fb and above despite all the hype about the weight savings, HD Payload limits you to the trim packages XL, XLT and Lariat and the 157" WB.

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Old 02-06-2015, 11:49 PM   #30
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I ordered my Platinum with a 157" WB which means a 6.5' bed. Again payload should be up around 2000lbs. I will be taking delivery in about 2 weeks so will know absolutely what the exact payload is.
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Old 02-08-2015, 12:00 PM   #31
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When you special order can they give you the GVWR? The Ford specs for EB 3.5L show 7050, 7600 and 7850 for 4x4, 156"WB. The last two require HD Payload. So your Platinum will be the 7050 GVWR with a 2010lb payload but they don't account for the trim levels in the chart. Platinums are the heaviest wile XLs are the lightest given the same body style, WB and engine. Robert says above the real work payload is around 1500lbs

I guess the 2010lb is for a 2x2, XL with few options. It would be nice if Ford expanded the chart to include an average for trim levels.

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Old 02-08-2015, 11:39 PM   #32
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Yes, the chart is confusing and not clear. Motor Trend says the curb weight is around 5632lbs. It was difficult getting the truck I wanted and still max out everything. I of course could have downsized the trim level and achieved more payload. Life is full of compromises. I will be taking delivery in a couple of weeks and will update with first had information. The dealer knew what I was after and he delayed ordering the truck for a couple of weeks until he actually was able to talk to Ford and see if any changes could be made to max out the payload. Ford told him no because it was a "luxury" pickup.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:07 AM   #33
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I went to the Ford Build site for 2015 F150 and when you order the Lariet with HD Payload you can't get the center console with shifter and if Supercrew or Supercab you have to get the longer WB, 157".

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Found this hard to believe, but Kelvin you are correct, cannot get it with the Plati either. So, now it's like the Super Duties, shiftier is on the column only. I did not like it on our F250 nor F350 either, but it does give us four cup holders. I think i saw on the F150 nothing as far as a console, almost a bench seat.
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Found this hard to believe, but Kelvin you are correct, cannot get it with the Plati either. So, now it's like the Super Duties, shiftier is on the column only. I did not like it on our F250 nor F350 either, but it does give us four cup holders. I think i saw on the F150 nothing as far as a console, almost a bench seat.
King Ranch and Platinum F150s have the center console, bucket seats and floor shifter by default, but don't have the HD Payload option Kelvin is looking at. Most Lariats you'll see will likely have the center console and bucket seats as well, but again in that configuration you won't have the HD Payload which I think is a silly restriction, but of course I like bucket seats & the console shifter so I can't see why someone would want it the other way. Maybe Ford just tossed a coin?
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Old 02-09-2015, 09:46 AM   #35
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If you order an XLT with HD Payload you can get a console but it's still a column shifter. You can't get a console for the Lariet because they move the shifter to the console unlike the XLT. I don't mind the XLT. We aren't that fond of leather, the only major feature I like about the Lariat is the dual setting/auto AC while the XLT is manual single zone.

You can order the Navigation separately under the XLT with HD Payload, but then you have to get the My Ford Touch which boosts the price more than just the Nav option.

I priced out a 2015 F150 CrewCab, 6.5' bed, 157"wb, 3.5L Ecoboost, 301A Pkg, HD Payload Pkg, Max Trailer Tow Pkg, Manual Trailer Mirrors, extended range tank, black running boards, Nav with MFT, and console and it comes to $48,865 MSRP with destination. I would expect a 7850 GVWR since it comes with the 18" wheels. Max payload is 2650lbs but it would be reduced by XLT options I've chosen, so I'm guessing 2400lbs. That would make it almost 1000lbs more payload than my Tundra.

There is some discounting of 2015 F150 now but when could I expect the biggest discount and still special order?

A non HD Payload XLT has a 7050 GVWR, max payload 2010, that would probably put payload at about 1800lbs which isn't much different than a 2014 XLT I drove. It had 1745lbs but had a 7700 GVWR. Ford lowered the GVWR on the 2015s it appears.

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Funny, my SO doesn't like the console, so we're looking all over for Lariats with the "40/20/40" front seating. In fairness to her, that arrangement does allow the passenger more "wiggle room" to shift around. Honestly I thought floor shifters for slush boxes were kind of silly when the first started appearing on Chevy "Super Sport" models in the mid-1960s.
BTW, the default seating for the Lariat is the 40/20/40, but most dealers order
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(Continuing) the bucket seats.
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I'm used to my Tundra having the floor shifter which allows me to manually shift the gears. I guess I can get used to the +/- button on the column on an F150.

The trouble I have with Ford's fold down console is the shallow and small storage compartment. However, if I completed filled my cavernous Tundra center console it would be hard to find stuff but I'd still prefer a larger capacity console. However, it's not a deal breaker.

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Just remember to do it properly. There is a tow capacity (what it can pull) and payload capacity (what it can haul).

In almost every case, a half-ton has no issue in towing capacity. It is the payload that makes all the difference since your tongue weight is subtracted from payload.

Saturday I drove by the Ford dealer and they got seven more 2015 trucks in. None in a config or color for me. The sales guy said I can give you a really good deal on a 2014. So we looked. I was in shock at the door stickers on payload. My '09 has the same sticker and is 1548 lbs. BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE was lower. The closest was 1401lbs. One was 940lbs. Yes, ALL F150 all super crew but what a difference in payload ratings. I saw a really nice Lariat, pearl white, adobe leather, loaded but short on payload - no go. I guess it'll do for some guy to pull his jet skis around but certainly not an AS. Oh, I know what you mean about the seats. I have the 40/20/40 seat that can sit three across. Shoppers really have to be careful. My sales guy told me I should just ignore the sticker. It's a truck, it can do it! Whoa! I will have to stick with the 2015s with the bigger payloads.
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Just remember to do it properly. There is a tow capacity (what it can pull) and payload capacity (what it can haul).

In almost every case, a half-ton has no issue in towing capacity. It is the payload that makes all the difference since your tongue weight is subtracted from payload.

Saturday I drove by the Ford dealer and they got seven more 2015 trucks in. None in a config or color for me. The sales guy said I can give you a really good deal on a 2014. So we looked. I was in shock at the door stickers on payload. My '09 has the same sticker and is 1548 lbs. BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE was lower. The closest was 1401lbs. One was 940lbs. Yes, ALL F150 all super crew but what a difference in payload ratings. I saw a really nice Lariat, pearl white, adobe leather, loaded but short on payload - no go. I guess it'll do for some guy to pull his jet skis around but certainly not an AS. Shoppers really have to be careful. My sales guy told me I should just ignore the sticker. It's a truck, it can do it! Whoa!

Hi, at one dealer, [after mentioning that my trailer has a GVWR of 6,300 lbs] a sales person told me that there wasn't any truck on his lot that couldn't tow 7,200 lbs. I told him that I wouldn't buy a truck that couldn't tow more than my Lincoln [8,900 lbs] and/or have a higher payload than my Lincoln. [1,600 lbs]

That sticker means a lot to me.
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Looks like all 2015s, despite the weight savings of aluminum bodies, will require HD Payload to get good payload because they lowered the GVWR ratings for 2015. The 2014 SuperCrews XLT, 4x4, 6.5' bed with Max Tow Pkg had GVWR of 7700lbs and a yellow sticker payload of 1765. The same 2015 model has only a 7050 GVWR. If the GVWR had remained the same in 2015 the payload should've been easily 500lbs more. There should've been no need to purchase the HD Payload pkg. When you select the HD Payload Pkg it restricts a lot of options you may desire. So has Ford lightened up the drive train and suspension parts so they can't take loads like the 2014 models? We all got caught up with the hype of aluminum bodies saving weight. Now we are learning aluminum body work will cost more as well as insurance due to the elevated cost of aluminum bodywork repairs.

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I think the typical PU buyer may not be so concerned with payload or towing capacity hence the dealers order what they think will sell. We and other RVers are a little more dialed in to the specifics. They make an excellent truck but you must order to your own specs.
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