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Old 04-23-2014, 12:34 PM   #1
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Ford Expedition and towing

Good afternoon -

For the past year I have been all around the mulberry bush, attending RV shows, looking at lots of Airstreams and Interstates -- eventually I will make a decision.

One of my all time favorite Airstreams is the 27 foot International Serenity--I just love it. Yesterday I telephoned Can-Am RV Centre up in Canada to ask for advice on using a Ford Expedition as a tow vehicle the 27 footer. A gentleman by the name of Philip Tipler told me that if I had a Prodigy P2 brake controller and a weight distribution hitch installed, I would be fine with the Ford Expedition.

If anyone has anything to add to this, I would be grateful for your comments/observations.

Many thanks.

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Old 04-23-2014, 01:41 PM   #2
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Good day Kristine..... Many of us here have Can Am set ups. They have a reputation for getting it right. Andrew T from Can Am is a Forum Member and he has praised the Expeditions on some of his posts ( mostly the newer ones with IRS suspension). If you do a search on Andrew T's posts you may find more info.

You are right, the 27IS is real nice!!!!!
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We tow our 26' Overlander with a 2008 Ford Expedition Limited. (V8, fully loaded with gizmos) Factory installed towing package and using a Prodigy brake sender. So far on several long and short trips, we find the Expedition more than enough vehicle for our needs up and down mountain passes etc. Although our 58 (remodeled interior) is probably much lighter than a new Airstream, we do find that we have far more power than we need... which means just the right amount.
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:23 PM   #4
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I tow your exact trailer with my 2003 Ford Expedition. Use the Equal-i-zer hitch. My 65lb Shorthair Pointer sits in the rear (third row seats folded flat). Wife and I up front and odds and end in second row seat. Tows like a champ!
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To make your Ex a super great towing machine, add a Firestone air bag setup on the rear springs, a Transgo Tugger Shift Kit in the tranny and a Mike's 5 Star SCT towing program. Also, if your Ex has a 3.73 rear end ratio, then that's good. If it is a 3.55, then I hope you have a newer EX with the 5 or 6 speed tranny.
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This is my 2013 27FB Airstream attached to my Expedition. As long as you have the 5.4L engine should be no problem towing. Payload on all Expeditions is in the 1,600lb area so no problem with the trailer.


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Old 04-24-2014, 08:27 AM   #7
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Good day Kristine..... Many of us here have Can Am set ups. They have a reputation for getting it right. Andrew T from Can Am is a Forum Member and he has praised the Expeditions on some of his posts ( mostly the newer ones with IRS suspension). If you do a search on Andrew T's posts you may find more info.

You are right, the 27IS is real nice!!!!!
Many thanks for your comments. I am so pleased to hear about Andy's endorsement of the Expedition. I'm just not comfortable with a 3/4 ton truck which many on the forum seem to feel is the best match for 27 > airstreams.

I appreciate your kindness!

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Old 04-24-2014, 09:01 AM   #8
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It's not so much about what you tow - you can tow most Airstreams with a modern SUV, van or 1/2 truck - some even with a sedan. It's more about what you choose to carry.

Right now, we're towing our 1984 34' trailer with a Honda Odyssey. It's a stable, safe and economical tow vehicle with a 1400lbs payload. It works because we travel relatively lightly, weekends and holidays rather than full time. I am a huge fan of this set-up.

However, I can see a point in the future, when the kids are older and we'll start carrying bikes and canoes, that we'll be buying a truck to help carry all of that stuff. Part of the plan is also to travel across Canada the year after next, and the Odyssey, as perfect as it is now, would not be the best vehicle for that trip.

Even then, I will be keeping the truck as small as I can, probably a Ford Ecoboost with a 6' bed, to stay as close as possible to the driving characteristics of a car. Independent suspension and a low centre of gravity are good things in a vehicle, whether you're towing or not. Unfortunately the kind of vehicle that can carry a high payload typically comes without these niceties, so there'll always be a compromise.

Your Ford is a nice and capable vehicle, enjoy.
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We tow our 26' Overlander with a 2008 Ford Expedition Limited. (V8, fully loaded with gizmos) Factory installed towing package and using a Prodigy brake sender. So far on several long and short trips, we find the Expedition more than enough vehicle for our needs up and down mountain passes etc. Although our 58 (remodeled interior) is probably much lighter than a new Airstream, we do find that we have far more power than we need... which means just the right amount.
Thank you! Your comments are reassuring and I appreciate your kindness.

All good wishes.

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We tow with a 2003 Expedition 5.4L 4x4, with a P3 and 800lbs Reese Dual Cam setup, and pull a 1998 31' and a 1979 25' Safari. We have not had any issues over the past 6 years. We also have dogs and they enjoy the 2nd row of seats. We only get about 9-10mpg while towing.

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As a former loyal Suburban owner (I traded #4, a 2009, when I discovered that they no longer provided fuel filters to prevent the fuel injector system from getting clogged).

The $300 apiece injectors have an "individual internal filter" which is rediculous because to "service" that filter means a new $300 injector...try THAT 8 times!

I now love my Ford Expedition even without 4-wheel drive.

Gosh, the dealer let me take it home un-purchased to see if the transmission could handle backing my trailer into its shaded shed (the 4 suburbans had 7 transmissions). The Expedition worked fine.

However, I just recently discovered that the "HD Towing Package" does not include air boosted rear shocks. That is a separate option; go figure: "HD" for heavy duty and that does NOT include an air boosted rear end leveler?

So I am online today seeking an aftermarket solution. I called my dealer and it's too late to install the air system on my Ford.

The attached photo shows my rig in what NavArchs call a "condition of sag" (the bow and stern riding on 2 wave tops) and this leads to frequent scrapes on entrances with rain inclined pavement.
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Why is it too late to install rear boosted rear shocks? What do expect that to cost and who will do the installation?

Thanks. Kristine
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As a former loyal Suburban owner (I traded #4, a 2009, when I discovered that they no longer provided fuel filters to prevent the fuel injector system from getting clogged).



The $300 apiece injectors have an "individual internal filter" which is rediculous because to "service" that filter means a new $300 injector...try THAT 8 times!



I now love my Ford Expedition even without 4-wheel drive.



Gosh, the dealer let me take it home un-purchased to see if the transmission could handle backing my trailer into its shaded shed (the 4 suburbans had 7 transmissions). The Expedition worked fine.



However, I just recently discovered that the "HD Towing Package" does not include air boosted rear shocks. That is a separate option; go figure: "HD" for heavy duty and that does NOT include an air boosted rear end leveler?



So I am online today seeking an aftermarket solution. I called my dealer and it's too late to install the air system on my Ford.



The attached photo shows my rig in what NavArchs call a "condition of sag" (the bow and stern riding on 2 wave tops) and this leads to frequent scrapes on entrances with rain inclined pavement.

You don't need air shocks to level the truck and trailer, you just need to adjust your hitch setup,
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You don't need air shocks to level the truck and trailer, you just need to adjust your hitch setup,
That's what I thought - it looks like the hitch isn't dialed in properly. Hard to see exactly what's the culprit, but I'd start with the WD.
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