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Old 03-11-2018, 10:08 PM   #85
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Really sounds like you want a loaded lariat with max tow package.
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Old 03-12-2018, 08:34 AM   #86
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We have 2017 f150 ecoboost Platinum and pulling 28 ft airstream. I find it great
Lots of power on the hills. Our mileage to Florida this winter was 24.3 L /100 with trailer and 12.5 without.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:55 AM   #87
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How many miles must the truck have on it before towing? Looking at a few new ones right now and was curious if it's stated anywhere how much break in the engine needs before towing.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:36 AM   #88
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Break in period

Owner's manual recommends at least 1,000 miles before towing.
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Old 03-13-2018, 12:15 PM   #89
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We have 2017 f150 ecoboost Platinum and pulling 28 ft airstream. I find it great
Lots of power on the hills. Our mileage to Florida this winter was 24.3 L /100 with trailer and 12.5 without.
To be sure, you should read the manual and also I suggest checking with your service manager. Many folks say to wait 500 miles before towing. I did this with my 2012 EB F150 when new. With my 2017 F250 6.7L, I pulled a small trailer with my AS "stuff" from TX to OR to pick up our new 28'FC, with less than a 100 miles on it. Dealer service manager told me they break the new engines in pretty good at the factory now before delivering and he did think a break in period was necessary with the new engines.
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Dealer service manager told me they break the new engines in pretty good at the factory now before delivering and he did think a break in period was necessary with the new engines.
Engines are generally run in at the factory, but there is still a benefit in ensuring that in the first 1000 miles or so that you vary the load and speed, don't lug the engine with high loads at very low rpm, and don't use very high rpm.

What we need to remember is that vehicle break-in isn't just about the engine. With towing, one thing to watch for is the rest of the powertrain, including the differential(s). That is what sees a higher load when towing, and those components need to break-in in as well. They don't get run in at the factory in the same way that engines do.
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Complete vehicles are run briefly on a dyno to verify operation of all systems. They then are started and stopped as loading unloading and delivery to the dealer requires. That's it, period. The miles you see on the dealer lot is it, period. Break in as owner manual states.
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:41 PM   #92
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2916 Ford F 150 Tow Mode Engine Braking

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I have a 34,000 mile 2016 F 150 Eco boost with the max towing package with cargo capacity of 1,468 pounds. It's my my daily driving as well as my tow vehicle. I tow a 27' Eddie Bauer and live in California but travel into Oregon, Washington, Colorado etc. whenever possible. Generally, when I venture out it's with my wife and dog and we usually are gone for 4 or 5 weeks. i love this truck, but I do have a feel concerns. First, when going up a long grade (maybe 6% for 5 or 6 miles) like from Salt Lake City to Park City, the radiator gauge starts reading numbers over the normal mid point. To correct this, and avoid over heating, I usually slow down and drop a gear. Naturally, going uphill with a 27' trailer I'm not trying to keep up with the traffic flow, but I am driving faster then most 18 wheelers. Second On long descents (6%), in Tow Haul mode, upon tapping the brakes, I've experience the engine revving very high and even dropping down to second gear. So often, I find myself have to apply the brakes too often slow my rig down. As I think it was mentioned in an earlier post, I don't think the Eco Boost has enough engine compression to control the descent. Also, on my last trip, I noticed my truck brakes oscillating like maybe a over heated warped rotor.
Anyway folks, I thinking now either getting a 2017 or 2018 F250 Diesel. But my hesitation is the day to day driving of the Super Duty is probably not too practical. Or, perhaps a larger block gasoline engine like the 6.2 liter Chevy 1500 (maybe better engine braking).
Thanks for reading and I appreciate all comments !
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:10 AM   #93
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Switch to F250 Diesel

I just switched from a '14 F150 3/5 EB. 3:73 Max Tow, Max Payload (1770#) to a '17 F250 6.7 Powerstroke. Very good decision for me. Daily drive about the same, and fuel economy about the same. Just fuel cost is higher. I had the same issues with downhill braking and control with my F150 ~ did fry the front rotors at abut 55K miles.

So far getting 12.5 MPG at 70 mph pulling a 2008 Classic Ltd. 27FB.

Really liked my F150 Platinum, but much happier towing with the F250.
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As I think it was mentioned in an earlier post, I don't think the Eco Boost has enough engine compression to control the descent. Also, on my last trip, I noticed my truck brakes oscillating like maybe a over heated warped rotor.
I agree, this is why I would recommend a brake upgrade on F-150 owners who do a lot of towing. I did, and it's night and day. Use your brakes and transmission gearing to control speed, not your engine. Use your brakes for their intended purpose.

As for the suspected "warped" rotor, it's actually caused by uneven brake pad material accumulating on rotors. When your brakes are hot, avoid coming to a complete stop which will burn in patches of brake pad material on your rotor causing that vibration. If possible, when brakes are hot, continue to drive around for several minutes before stopping completely. If you have to stop at a light, stop far back and allow the car to creep forward to keep the vehicle in motion. Modern brake rotors don't warp.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:41 AM   #95
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Hi Everyone,
I have a 34,000 mile 2016 F 150 Eco boost with the max towing package with cargo capacity of 1,468 pounds. It's my my daily driving as well as my tow vehicle. I tow a 27' Eddie Bauer and live in California but travel into Oregon, Washington, Colorado etc. whenever possible. Generally, when I venture out it's with my wife and dog and we usually are gone for 4 or 5 weeks. i love this truck, but I do have a feel concerns. First, when going up a long grade (maybe 6% for 5 or 6 miles) like from Salt Lake City to Park City, the radiator gauge starts reading numbers over the normal mid point. To correct this, and avoid over heating, I usually slow down and drop a gear. Naturally, going uphill with a 27' trailer I'm not trying to keep up with the traffic flow, but I am driving faster then most 18 wheelers. Second On long descents (6%), in Tow Haul mode, upon tapping the brakes, I've experience the engine revving very high and even dropping down to second gear. So often, I find myself have to apply the brakes too often slow my rig down. As I think it was mentioned in an earlier post, I don't think the Eco Boost has enough engine compression to control the descent. Also, on my last trip, I noticed my truck brakes oscillating like maybe a over heated warped rotor.
Anyway folks, I thinking now either getting a 2017 or 2018 F250 Diesel. But my hesitation is the day to day driving of the Super Duty is probably not too practical. Or, perhaps a larger block gasoline engine like the 6.2 liter Chevy 1500 (maybe better engine braking).
Thanks for reading and I appreciate all comments !
I had similar problems with my 2012 EB pulling my 25' on same grade and also coming out of CA to Vegas and back. I think the 1/2T was matched well with the 25', except for those minor issues. When I went up to my new 28' AS last June, I also upgraded to a new 2017 F250 6.7L, on "wifes request". The new technology including including the engine braking even when in cruise mode is unbelievable! Plus, it is very well matched with longer wheel base and heavier duty components to pulling a 28 or larger. (not to mention payload!)

Many of us who have this model have commented...65mph in cruise at 1500rpms, up/down Rockies with no foot on either pedal...amazing vehicle and matched well for stopping/handling that size AS. As was said, mileage similar to the EB, but fuel and oil changes are way more expensive. i did not look at the 6.2L F250 gasser, but I may take a look when i tire of this one..or go broke!
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l took my 5.0 f150 in for service and got a loaner eco boost 18. what a great driving truck...lighter and faster than mine... very nice though only an stx model.
i especially notived the turbo kick in at lowerthan expected rpm, nice feel.
my truck has plenty of grunt but also gives it up in gas mileage.
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l took my 5.0 f150 in for service and got a loaner eco boost 18. what a great driving truck...lighter and faster than mine... very nice though only an stx model.
i especially notived the turbo kick in at lowerthan expected rpm, nice feel.
my truck has plenty of grunt but also gives it up in gas mileage.
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Not an EB, but...2018 XLT 5.0 3.73 supercrew. About 1500 pounds payload. E2 WD hitch pulling a 25FB Intl very nicely. One thing I did prior to purchasing the AS was an exhaust swap on the truck. That may have been a mistake as it does get loud, but overall it's a nice combo. I park in a garage at work...6'8". The stock antenna smacked around...swapped for a shorter version, but you could also cut the stock one down about 4 inches as well.

It is just the wife and I and our 10 pound dog. We load a Weber Q1000 grill and a small cooler. Sometimes the bikes...about 25 pounds each. So we're close on payload, but not pushing it. We don't carry much gear as most of our trips are 2 to 5 days so not much is required. We get groceries on the road if needed.

ETA...replaced the stock mirrors with telescoping tow mirrors. They are MUCH better.
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