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Old 09-21-2009, 05:05 PM   #1
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For those with steep driveways (with pics)

OK, I am probably making a bigger deal of this that I should, but in the interest of safety, I'm concerned with backing up my new airstream (when I get it, that is) up my driveway due to the the pitch. Now what I thought was easily 20 degrees turned out to be 8 to 9 after a gauge measurement.
At the top I have tons of room to the right, it's just getting it up there.
I've got a 2009 f150 and I'll be getting the weight distribution hitch, etc..., so I'm feeling good about the basic tow. We're looking at a 25' trailer - 9300 tow capacity vs. 7300 loaded trailer - so should be OK there (need to take it easy though).
From a clearance standpoint, I think it'll be close but I think I'll be OK. If that's an issue I can get a drop hitch.
From the truck side, does anyone have experience pushing a 7000 trailer up an incline in reverse, and if so do you think it's basically a non-issue??
I'm thinking once I do it a bunch of times I'll be OK with it (I do it with my 2000 pound pop-up all the time and at first I was nervous but now it's cake). Thanks.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:45 PM   #2
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Your place is a beauty! I think the push question is a non concern from the looks of the grade. I have serious thoughts about the mail box....coming at it from either direction. One of my favorite sayings is....if you say to yourself "I think I can make it".....you probably can't. I hate to see a scratched or dented side panel on you beauty.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:47 PM   #3
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OK, I am probably making a bigger deal of this that I should, but in the interest of safety, I'm concerned with backing up my new airstream (when I get it, that is) up my driveway due to the the pitch. Now what I thought was easily 20 degrees turned out to be 8 to 9 after a gauge measurement.
At the top I have tons of room to the right, it's just getting it up there.
I've got a 2009 f150 and I'll be getting the weight distribution hitch, etc..., so I'm feeling good about the basic tow. We're looking at a 25' trailer - 9300 tow capacity vs. 7300 loaded trailer - so should be OK there (need to take it easy though).
From a clearance standpoint, I think it'll be close but I think I'll be OK. If that's an issue I can get a drop hitch.
From the truck side, does anyone have experience pushing a 7000 trailer up an incline in reverse, and if so do you think it's basically a non-issue??
I'm thinking once I do it a bunch of times I'll be OK with it (I do it with my 2000 pound pop-up all the time and at first I was nervous but now it's cake). Thanks.
From the photo, the incline does not look difficult at all and certainly, nothing your rig can't handle. By the heading, I was expecting a serious grade of epic proportions... . Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it, just be careful.

Looks like you've had experience backing at least a pop-up - concept is the same but with a much larger load. Just take your time until you've gotten use to how the rear of the 'Stream moves and how much when you turn. Have someone behind the Airstream as your backing so that you don't run into anything...

Most definitely, at a minimum, get a weight distribution hitch.

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Old 09-21-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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I agree on the grade. I thinks that you'll be just fine. Just take your time.

I also agree on the mail box. If it were mine, I would definitely relocate the mail box at least 10' further from the driveway. I sure would hate to put a ding in my $50,000 Airstream with my $12 mail box.

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Old 09-21-2009, 06:03 PM   #5
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That really doesn't look that steep. mine is a LOT steeper. (not to mention, it curves like an "S" )

trailer is lighter, though...5800 gvw on the tag. Truck isn't terribly "stout", either...but in low range, it can push it up there no problem. If your 150 has 4x4, I'm sure you'll have no problems. (even if it doesn't...still probably ok.)

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Old 09-21-2009, 06:28 PM   #6
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I learned one thing from experience backing up a hill somewhat steeper than yours.
-Consider the effect of the raising of the trailer axles in relation to the TV axles before you start up the hill.-
I was in a state park in Idaho. We were assigned a very nice site that was elevated above the road. It had a steep approach but was level at the top. I was towing a non A/S 21 foot trailer. It had a 6300 # max GVW, but was not loaded anywhere near that. I was using a Equal-I-Zer brand hitch with a Max rating of 6000 Lbs.
I had quite a bit of trouble getting traction starting up the hill even with low range 4WD. However finally made it OK. I blamed in on loose gravel. When we were ready to leave for home, I noticed as we were hooking up, that both WD bars were bent slightly but noticeably upward. It was then that it dawned on me what I had done. As the trailer was going up the slope, it was as though I were jacking up the rear of the trailer, causing the bars of the hitch to try to lift the back of the TV off the ground. In retrospect the obvious thing to have done was to disconnect the bars before starting to back up the hill. I turned both bars over so I would still have sway control and replaced the hitch when I got home.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:05 PM   #7
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POI....It's much easier backing up over your left shoulder/mirror.
I agree, move the MB and watch the bush and the stone wall.

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Old 09-21-2009, 07:38 PM   #8
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It looks like it won't be a problem for you. My drive is a bit steeper and there are shrubs on both sides and then the house. I can back my 28' A/S up there with my GMC 1/2 ton with no problem and I don't have to use 4 wheel drive. I forget whether the 25 is a tandem axel or not - my 28 is. I've found if I align the back edge of the rear bumper on the trailer with the left side of the drive (the side where the rig is) before I start the turn I can put her right in there and then it's just a question of when to straighten her out. Sometimes I have to pull forward 1/2 a truck length - but I can do it essentially on one go - and I'm a newbie with trailers so you shouldn't have a problem. If you check my profile I believe there's a pic of the trailer in the driveway. Also my street is narrow and I have a huge tree on one side and a telephone pole on the other - I had to get it right! By contrast you have almost clear sailing. Don't hesitate to stop and get out and walk around the rig if you need to be sure that you are in the clear and aligned the way you want it - I can't always tell by the mirrors.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:47 PM   #9
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Depending on the model some brake controllers do not like to go backwards up a hill and apply voltage to the brakes making it harder than it should be to back up an incline.

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Opps pic is no longer on my profile so here it is and also a winter shot with the truck in front - No, I don't back in on the ice in the winter!)
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:21 PM   #11
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Opps pic is no longer on my profile so here it is and also a winter shot with the truck in front - No, I don't back in on the ice in the winter!)
That does look like a challenge, especially that big tree. You have nerves of steel.http://www.airforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:34 PM   #14
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Thanks everyone, great points and advice.
W7ts, maybe you are correct on disconnecting the sway bars when backing up. I'll check into that.
Yes, the mailbox will definitely get moved (the wife mentioned a new one anyways - good time to move it then!).
Pudentane, you have it MUCH worse than me.
Thanks for the confidence!
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