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Old 04-28-2018, 10:22 AM   #15
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Could you let me know the brand name of the trailer rack that mounts on the front A-frame of an A/S? Many thanks.
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What is the proper way to adjust the sway control?

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Tightening or loosening the lever at the front of the friction anti-sway bar. It should be loosened completely if driving in conditions that makes the road surface slippery (snow, ice, very heavy rain); or in a campground (to reduce the noise).
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:39 AM   #17
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Tightening or loosening the lever at the front of the friction anti-sway bar. It should be loosened completely if driving in conditions that makes the road surface slippery (snow, ice, very heavy rain); or in a campground (to reduce the noise).
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I've been tightening until it's tight then backing off 180 degrees. Still having issues when it's windy, maybe there is nothing one can do about the wind cept slow down or pull off.

I take it off before backing up.

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I've been tightening until it's tight then backing off 180 degrees. Still having issues when it's windy, maybe there is nothing one can do about the wind cept slow down or pull off.

I take it off before backing up.

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I wouldn't back it off at all for normal interstate operation. it is supposed to be tight in order for the friction pads to function - like brake pads. I tighten mine tightly, but not to the extent of leaning my full weight on them. If it was really windy, then I might tighten even more. If I am on back roads or in the city (less than 35 mph) I would loosen or not install them.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:04 AM   #19
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You did the right thing by applying trailer brakes
Part of the problem is the short wheel base of the trailer and you upset the balance by adding the bikes. Your total vehicle is also partly to blame. I had the same problem with a 23 foot Award trailer that could shake my Jimmy tow vehicle completely out of control. I solved the problem by adding extra friction anti-sway. I think the soft suspension of your tow vehicle is partly to blame blame but you exasperated that situation by adding extra weight to the rear of the trailer
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As all the other folks are feverishly posting, lose the receiver-hitch-mounted bike rack. Have your dealer mount an Airstream-approved Fiamma bike rack and count your blessings.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:20 AM   #21
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Bike Rack

All you people that try to avoid the obvious solution to the bike rack problem. Get the Fiamma unit that is designed to fit, and is approved by Airstream, onto the rear of the trailer. Not cheap, like everything else Airstream, but worth the price.
Bought our 25' FC, purchased and mounted the rack (detailed instructions included) and have enjoyed wandering thousands of miles of roads, and hundreds of miles of bike trails, since.

Granted, this unit (and Airstream) has distinct weight limits, so no electric bikes. But my small wife can easily load and unload both of our bicycles. Very enjoyable.

And, No bugs to clean off!
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Watch "Dangerous Trailers.Org Presents Trailer Sway 101" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/i2fkOVHAC8Q

This shows sway perfectly
(46 seconds long)
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Watch "Dangerous Trailers.Org Presents Trailer Sway 101" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/i2fkOVHAC8Q

This shows sway perfectly
(46 seconds long)
I love this video. The single most important thing you can do is load your trailer properly with 10-15% of the total RV weight on the hitch. If you do that, with an Airstream, all of the sway bars and fancy hitches become nice to haves.

As an engineer I explain it to people this way. Build a standard paper airplane and then put a paper clip on the back. It is unstable and won't fly very well. Move the same paper clip to the front and now the paper airplane is very stable. People have to remember, "put the paper clip on the front".

If you put a bike rack on the back of your trailer, without any other weight moved forward, you have essentially put the paper clip on the back of your plane...

I have done some scoping calculations on my 25' rear bed and I have to tell you that Airstream have really thought about the design and keeping the rig stable when reasonably loaded.

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Looks like we agree that the rear mounted hitch bike rack is fundamentally the culprit here.

That said, there are ways to mitigate the stability the stability loss.

There's now too much weight at the rear of the trailer, too far back. Either remove, bring forward more, and/or lighten that load. Another strategy is to counter-balanced to restore the right tongue weight. More specifically, the center of gravity of the trailer is too far rearward, and has to be brought back forward.

You can do this by shifting how you are loading the items within the trailer. In my case, I will be adding more tongue weight in the form of a tongue mounted generator.

In regards to general stability. What type of tires do you have on your Yukon? If it's P-rated tire, you can get quite a bit more stability by trading it for an LT-rated tire, that has stiffer sidewalls.
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Agree with the Fiamma Airstream approved bike rack. Have gone thousands of miles with the bikes on the back-no issues.
Sounds like u prevented an accident by using just trailer brakes. Bet that got your heart rate up.
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Old 04-28-2018, 06:47 PM   #26
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I agree that the combination of speed and the loaded bike rack was probably the reason for the sway. And we all agree, more or less, that adding a substantial (whatever "substantial means in this case) weight to the back of our ASs is not wise, for various reasons including insufficient frames. But...why would the Flamma bike rack....which carries bikes in the same back as other makes except at a much higher cost...solve this dilemma> Makes no sense to me that all are bad...but this very expensive AS-approved one is good. jon
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:02 PM   #27
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Because the Fiamma rack hugs the back of the AS and is actually over the rear storage area forward of the back bumper. Thus the center of gravity [incl. bikes] is much closer to the rear axle that any rack which projects aft of the back bumper by virtue of using a standard hitch receiver.

Also the Fiamma rack is relatively lightweight, and does not require a heavy steel hitch receiver to be installed.

In sum -- lighter overall weight, plus COG much closer to rear axle.

A proven combination!

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Old 04-28-2018, 07:48 PM   #28
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had to use the brake controller to get back in control.
What do you mean by "had to use the brake controller"? Don't you always have the trailer brake controller engaged when towing the Airstream? How is it even possible not to have the brake controller operate automatically when you touch the tow vehicle brake pedal?
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