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Old 01-31-2016, 10:09 AM   #57
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@MFP-- I don't want to drive around in a pickup either. The Sequoia was on my short list of TVs during my search and should work out great for you based on my research. I ended up getting a 2006 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S yesterday. It's just a little more fun to drive than the Sequoia :-)

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Old 01-31-2016, 10:35 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by GuitarmanFL View Post
Hey RichW46-

I too have a 4Runner, albeit the V-6.

I have the 72 27'. What size AS do u have and how well / comfy do you feel with it as a TV.

I love my 4R, and don't want another truck. So I'd consider the v8 4R or possibly a used Sequoia, but i'd prefer the 4R - due to it's killer off roading - which I don't do with my AS!


Hi Brek, our '04 4Runner is year 2 of the V8 4.7L engine. In 2003 the hitch was a bumper hitch in the early part of the model year (MY). From late 2003 until at least 2006 they had a frame hitch and V8. The V8 was the old style cast iron and the tranny was the new style full-time 4WD. It's rated at 7,000 towing capacity and a tongue weight of 700 lbs.

Our '06 23'-AS maxes out at 4700 lbs. so we're well within the capacity. Over normal terrain I drive 60-65 and get 12-13 mpg. I have the Equalizer hitch and have never had any problems towing. The AS stays very steady behind the TV. When we first towed I had to constantly watch my speed as it would get up to 70-75. Still, the AS was very steady. I quickly learned to manage my speed, watch my overhead clearance and braking distance.

The current model 4Runner maxes out at 4,700 lbs. towing, I don't know the tongue weight. It was 5,000 until a couple of years ago when Toyota adopted the new J2807 SAE towing standard. So you'd have to go to the Sequoia 4.7L or 5.7L V-8 for towing what I can tow with mine.

I've towed in strong cross winds and with lots of tractor-trailers on the road. I'm aware that they're passing but no problems with the AS handling.

You don't say what year your 4Runner is. I have the specs for 2004, you'd have to check your owner's manual for your year.

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Old 01-31-2016, 02:34 PM   #59
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Originally Posted by Tom_T View Post
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And as it turns out, the OP has gone off topic on his own, by now veering towards what he initially said he doesn't want ... a truck, by now focusing on some deals he can get on new 2015 Ford F150s!
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OK, the OP is a genuine nit wit! I should know, because I'm him!

So, we wound up with a truck. A new 2015 (one of the few left in this part of the country) Ford F150 with the 3.5 Eco-Boost and Max Tow stuff. Certainly it will handle the 23D with at least a degree of authority.

I sold my Land Cruiser after 18 or 19 years of ownership (well, more like an adoption), and I must admit that I already miss its agility and precision. Linda assures me that I will get over the loss, but right now the F150 just seems enormous. Of course, it is smooth and quiet. First tow is at least a month away, so I've got time to get my mind and my muscles into this new rig (I hope, I hope, I hope).

After several years of the Land Cruiser/Casita 17-footer, the new Truck and Airstream are just pretty darned intimidating to this old guy!

I am grateful for the good guidance I received from all who responded to this - and my other - thread.

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Old 01-31-2016, 03:48 PM   #60
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Old 01-31-2016, 04:30 PM   #61
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That's the great thing about the Forum - all the great and varied inputs you get. I noticed one post the criticized folks for getting off your original topic. I have actually found that to be beneficial, because I get inputs on things I hadn't considered (but needed to).

In any case, congratulations on the truck and AS - and TRAVEL SAFE. See you somewhere maybe! This spring I'm in Olympic NP; summer is TBD; Sep is Yosemite and Grand Canyon; winter is S Florida and Keys. Ain't it great!
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Old 01-31-2016, 05:00 PM   #62
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Old 01-31-2016, 07:07 PM   #63
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i just got a grand cherokee diesel- overland model. Towed my 31' Sovereign today. It tows better than my older suburban. the torque is awesome.
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Old 02-04-2016, 03:03 PM   #64
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Rob, now you are a real Texan

Exactly, in Texas ya gotta have a truck, or 2 or 3......

We have had 2 F250 diesels, some F150s ,non diesels, and some SUVs also. Truth be told, this girl would take a nice truck every time. Soon will be shopping for a new truck, then on to an Airstream (I hope).
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Old 02-05-2016, 07:01 AM   #65
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It came to my mind that maybe you never drove a Pickup. Do to a snow storm I just drove my 2014 Chevy Silverado 1500 pm a 500 mile trip. I have had it for 2 years, but this is the first trip I have taken with out my trailer on. I was amazed at how great a job it did we are both 73 years old this was "back roads". We love the truck for towing.
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:42 AM   #66
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First Airstream and I don't want a truck (!)

We tow our 31' Sovereign with a 2015 Expedition with Ecoboost(the only engine it comes with). We have the towing package which has a 9,200 lb capacity. Our trailer is 7,000 lbs loaded. The turbocharged engine pulls the trailer easily over all of our Colorado mountain passes. We have over 30,000 miles experience towing with Expeditions. We use a load leveling Hensley Hitch and have driven in 30+ mph crosswinds with no swaying issues. My brother was towing an SOB trailer with a 3/4 ton Diesel and was white knuckle the whole time.
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:51 AM   #67
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Old 02-05-2016, 10:57 AM   #68
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RFP-Disclaimer--I do not work for Ford, have any Ford stock and in the past have said FORD stood for Found on the Road Dead-Now that that is out, I have driven Chevys for years, three Tahoes two Suburbans and while I did like them, am now in my third year of a F-150, Eco Boost, Platinum. It is the best road vehicle I have ever driven.. First impression when I test drove it was, this thing is a beast. Once you get accustom to it, I believe you will love it. Out pulls any other vehicle I have ever driven, including the 3/4 ton Suburban. The dual turbo eco boost is awesome and develops great torque. I hope you enjoy yours as well as I do mine

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Old 03-17-2016, 08:19 AM   #69
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FWIW... I had the issues with warped front rotors. I looked all over for some monster truck type beefed-up brakes but there were none, so opted for Napa Ultra Premium rotors and (ceramic) pads all round.

The rotors warped again. The shop replaced them for free. They warped again.

Third time lucky - the shop again warrantied them out, replaced the rotors with the same type but this time installed Centric Posi Quiet 10609760 semi-metallic pads and touch wood so far all is well.

The shop guy felt confident these pads would solve the problem - so far so good.


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Old 03-25-2016, 10:48 PM   #70
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Just another guy's experience: first two years with our 19' Bambi International we had a Highlander. I'd only had Toyotas for 30 years and loved them...BUT as a TV we always felt it was marginal, especially for a fair amount of mountain travel. So this winter I took my wife's advice or suggestion and began shopping for a PU. Semi long story but we now have a 2015 Ford F-150 Lariat with a max tow package and it is GREAT!! We've covered 1,500 miles this past month and the only time I miss the Highlander, when towing that is, is when I am parking or backing up - its shorter wheelbase made thing a bit easier but otherwise I can't say enough good things about the F-150.

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