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Old 01-12-2016, 07:04 PM   #15
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Linda and I are so excited that we will be picking up our new-to-us 2014 23D International Serenity later this week. We are 99.99% sure that our trusty '96 Land Cruiser won't be satisfactory for the weight... sometimes it seemed to struggle a bit when pulling our Casita (~ 3,100 pounds on the road). The truth is that we don't want a truck, preferring a SUV. Right now, I'm thinking 2008~2012 Toyota Sequoia with the 5-point-something V8, six speed transmission and all the towing stuff. I've read a number of threads about this vehicle and all seemed pretty positive, but all I found were 'kinda old."

So, I thought that I'd post this question as to the suitability of the Sequoia with the 23D for current thought. We do like to travel frequently to the Rockies, if that matters, and it probably does.

Thanks so much,

We tow ours with a 2004 4Runner. It has a smaller 4.7L V8 but it has a 7,000 lb. towing capacity. The early Sequoias also had the 4.7L. If you can get the 5.7 you can upsize the trailer later on with the bigger engine but the 4.7 does nicely with the 23' size. I think Toyota kept the 4.7L in the 4runners through about 2007 but the '04 models have the larger fuel tank.

Just a thought.


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Old 01-12-2016, 07:50 PM   #16
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I happily tow my 23 with a 2011 Jeep GC Overland Hemi. I had an F-150 and decided it was overkill.


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Old 01-13-2016, 10:22 AM   #17
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A friend of mine has a gorgeous Porsche Cayenne SUV that pulls his large boat --- If you want style and can afford one he says it's fantastic.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:29 AM   #18
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We have towed our current A/S with a 2010 Nissan Armada SE over 65,000 miles with NO adverse issues. Since the Armada has a 9,100# tow limit, we carefully keep the A/S to no more than 8,500# and get 10-13 mpg depending on topography as we keep speeds under 65 mph.

The Sequoia is also a very good tow vehicle. Good luck with your A/S and finding the tow vehicle which best suits your needs!!
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:40 AM   #19
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True story - we were visiting an Airstream dealership about a year ago in the southwest. A couple was admiring the Bambi which was on the floor in the Airstream store. They asked a sales person several questions and it seemed to be going along very well at least until they asked if their Subaru could tow the trailer. I loved the response - "sure it will - one time". Subaru products are awesome and I've owned a few myself but this was a honest answer and it was the right answer. I agree with you on the pick up truck part, no desire to drive a truck as a TV and through the year. The input above is all great and, for me, we have had such great luck with Chevrolet. The full frame V8 Tahoe & the Suburban remain the lead choices for me in a quickly narrowing field of options for a sturdy and capable non-pick up tow vehicle.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:41 AM   #20
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Diesel is the answer, no matter what the question about tow vehicles. Among SUVs, try the Mercedes GL (or ML, for a 23') or Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:42 AM   #21
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We are towing our 2015 23D International Serenity with our 2007 Mercedes ML320 CDI V6 diesel and using a Hensley Arrow weight distribution hitch. The car has been to CanAm in London Ontario to have the factory receiver reinforced and they cut five inches off the car end of the stinger to bring the trailer closer to the rear axle and pre-bent the stinger slightly to preload the weight distribution system.

We changed the stock 14" tires and wheels for the 15" SenDel T03-56545T wheels and 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires set to 44 psi. That brought the 23D to the same elevation of our prior 25FB so all the those hitch settings work for the 23D.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:54 AM   #22
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The Sequoia is built on the same chassis as the Tundra. The engine is the I-Force 5.7 liter V-8 which has more than enough house power and torque to pull your AS. Just make sure it is set up properly as to hitch, anti-sway and brake controls. My TV is a Tundra 5.7, SR5, TRD and we towed a 9600 pound fifth wheel over 70,000 miles with it before we bought our 23 FB Silver Cloud. No problems at all flat land or mountains.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:54 AM   #23
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We have a 2005 diesel Ford Excursion. Yes, it's 10 years old. Yes, they are out of production. But, you can still find them and there are actually a couple of companies that will convert a truck to one for you. This vehicle has been the perfect solution for us. It's a real workhorse, has three rows of fold down seating, has great access through all doors, pulls our 31' classic with ease, gets terrific fuel mileage, and has been cheaper than expected to maintain. It still looks great, and we will keep it until the end of days if possible. Why Ford quit making them is beyond me. At least 2 times a year someone asks us to sell it.
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Old 01-13-2016, 10:59 AM   #24
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You may also want to look at the Suburban 1500 4x4. I have a 2014 Z71 model with towing package and skid plate. Towing capacity is 8000 lb which puts a fully loaded 23D right in the comfort zone. I live in Colorado and am looking to purchase a new 23D this spring to finally do some camping in our National Parks. Good luck with your tow vehicle search.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:20 AM   #25
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i'm pulling my 24' with a ford expedition - 6 cylinder engine with tons of torque. i live in montana so most of our travels are in the mountains. i even put my drift boat behind and travel as a "threesome" sometimes.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:24 AM   #26
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Talked with Andy regarding 2010 Tundra Limited V8 CrewMax short bed vs Seqouia. He actually felt the were equally top notch. Since I'd be towing a 34' PanAm, he reworked the WD hitch to be nearer to rear axle of towing vehicle's axle. The PLUS for the Tundra was the truck bed for STUFF! The Seqouia simply is TOO nice to use as a "dumping ground" for all your gear. Even with the PA "garage" we filled the TV bed. Either one will drink fuel; HOWEVER, they will be great to drive and LAST, LAST, LAST! Not sorry I own the truck. If I stopped needing the truck, I would swap to the Sequoia.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:54 AM   #27
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I have a 2008 Sequioa 2 wheel drive. It's been a great tow vehicle for our 22ft International. Reliability is really important when your 300 miles from the nearest garage which is the point of camping. The Consumer Report for 2015 for vehicle brand reliability rates Toyota as number 2 at 54% above average for reliability, Jeep is the second worst with a reliability 98% below average, Dodge is 53% below average for reliability and Chevrolet at 49% below average reliability. Toyota is the only brand with a full size SUV that's above average in reliability.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:00 PM   #28
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I tow my FC 27' with a 2015 Sequoia, 5.8L, V-8, 4WD (though I hardly ever put it in four wheel), with a tow package, Equalizer hitch, and it does a great job, even through the Rockies last spring. Gas mileage isn't great....about 10 mpg, but it's a comfy vehicle, and the rear holds plenty of equipment. One drawback is the rear hatch won't open with trailer attached, but I roll the rear window down to access what I need for parking and setup.

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