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Old 12-05-2017, 09:22 PM   #1
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F250 Sticker Payload Shock

So in another post we wondered about the possibility of pulling a 27 footer (TB) with an F150. After considering that guidance, and doing the math, our 2.7 Screw Lariat w/ a payload of 1417 would be over the max payload. I could have probably taken it to the scales but I'm positive I'd just confirm what I already know, so I located and just picked up an '17 F250 leftover.

I looked at the door sticker on a few prior to getting this one, I think one was around 2300lbs (that was a diesel) and a gas one with 2600lbs of payload which is about what I expected this new truck to have.

I couldn't confirm the payload on the one that was located until I took delivery. The door sticker on mine (6.2 Screw Lariat 4X4 10k Snowplow Prep)... 3084lbs!!!

I think Ford needs to re-think their whole F150 / 250 / 350 strategy, it seems they could be spaced out a bit better. Perhaps an F250 with IFS and 3.55's...

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Old 12-05-2017, 09:32 PM   #2
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The Super Duty line up is really nuts up. I really only think they keep the F250, F350 naming for the old times that like to talk about 3/4 tons and 1 tons. It is very difficult to go through all the versions of suspensions options, other options, and the offering of downgraded (paper) GVWR to meet nonsense regulations and insurance needs.

You are not much less then the sticker on my new diesel F350 (Platinum with damn near every option).

Enjoy your new truck. Mines sitting in the garage staying clean until Friday when I get my Line X bed liner done.
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:30 AM   #3
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I just picked up the 2017 F-250 Lariat with Diesel engine and payload is around 2300 lbs. The diesel reduces payload by 600-700 lbs vs the gas version. Still plenty of payload for us but that was a surprise for me as well.
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Old 12-06-2017, 06:05 AM   #4
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I just picked up the 2017 F-250 Lariat with Diesel engine and payload is around 2300 lbs. The diesel reduces payload by 600-700 lbs vs the gas version. Still plenty of payload for us but that was a surprise for me as well.
Add me to the list. After looking online and seeing payloads all over 3,000 pounds, I was surprised to see the door sticker on mine is just 2,150 pounds. Wow....what a drop. I'm in a 2017 F-250 Lariat with 6.7 diesel.

That's plenty of payload, but what a drop over what is advertised!
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Old 12-06-2017, 06:22 AM   #5
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All those heavy accessories drop payload. Each electric motor, pjece of chrome, or fancy dodad adds weight. Make your truck like a car and lose payload! Some need to decide if they want a car kr a truck. There are tradeoffs.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:56 AM   #6
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We are shopping now for replacement of our 2004 GMC 2500, as it went over 200,000 miles (> 180,000 all pulling our Airstream). We actually spotted one Ford Super Duty with a sticker price starting with an "8" !!!

After looking closely at all "150" (1/2 ton) and "XD" (5/8 ton) models, we've concluded that a Super Duty (2500 or 3500) truck is what we would be most comfortable with for the next 200,000 miles.

Will make a decision soon, but ouch on the payload reduction. We've too been seeing much higher capacities in advertising, specs, etc. until we look at the actual vehicle WR listings. Seems most of the 3/4 ton result in about 2000-2300 payloads.

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Old 12-06-2017, 11:10 AM   #7
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I think Ford needs to re-think their whole F150 / 250 / 350 strategy, it seems they could be spaced out a bit better. Perhaps an F250 with IFS and 3.55's...

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They did back in '97-2003- it was the F150 7700 (7700 GVRW), alternatively called "Heavy Half", or as a 250 "light duty". A massive marketing mistake, but I own a 2003 4x4 with IFS and 3.73 LSD in a 10.25 (rear). Drove across country and back with 33" MTs and averaged 13.5 mpg (via I 40) at 75 mph (with only a camper shell) with the 5.4 bifuel (propane disconnected).
I don't like the torsion bar IFS - it performs well but makes it hard to lift properly for expedition use - and the 5.4, like any SOHC, has to rev way high to get the grunt of the old big block at a marginal increase in MPG.
But it will pull an AS up to 28' no problem. (It was purchased to haul a '78 30' International, but that is gone now, so the 7700 is consigned to boat duty)
I kinda wish they made a current model myself.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:19 AM   #8
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We just ordered a 2018 F350 with the diesel 4x4 crew cab long bed XLT Premium package and some other options we wanted. It took a lot of research to nail down exactly which line we needed to start with. F150s were way too light duty for my liking. I don't like being close to the limits of my truck when towing. I like lots of extra capacity just in case. Plus it raises the fun factor while vacationing when you don't have to worry as much. Lariats and Premiums had too much we didn't want to pay for. One thing I figured out is that Ford has virtually any combination of truck you want but you just need to do the research.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:22 AM   #9
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I decided to go smaller on the tv. Went from a 2500 Duramax with @2300 payload to a 1500 with 1850 payload. Could have got 1950 payload on a 1500, but decided I needed the extra comforts. There are options. My opinion, Mike
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:05 PM   #10
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That snowplow prep killed your available payload. When doing research ya really need to know what each opinion adds to the truck.
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:03 PM   #11
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All those heavy accessories drop payload. Each electric motor, pjece of chrome, or fancy dodad adds weight. Make your truck like a car and lose payload! Some need to decide if they want a car kr a truck. There are tradeoffs.
That's why I bought an F350. Even with power running boards, pano moon roof, massaging seats and all the other toys, many which are heavy, I still have around 3300 pounds of available payload.

You can have it all with the newer heavy duty trucks, both payload and the trinkets. The only tradeoff is expense and the size of the beast.
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Old 12-06-2017, 02:13 PM   #12
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I bought my F250 diesel platinum a year ago. I was expecting about 2500 payload and with the 10,000 max vehicle option I thought I was good to go. Boy was I make a mistake. My new truck ended up with only 1957#. When I loaded up for my first trip I went over that Cat scales and low and behold I was overweight on the 10,000# max and the rear axle was overloaded by about 600#.

I was at the car lot where I bought my truck and made a deal with them: If they could find an F250 with over 2500# payload I would buy it on the spot. After looking at over 50 F250's on the lot, not one vehicle was over 2250#. These were all 2017's. The only F250 that had a high number was a gas model with the standard cab with the label basic work truck with essentially no options.

We did see a few F150's that actually had a higher payload 2200# than the F250's 2000# I do admit that all of the 50 trucks were diesel NO gas models on the lot. This lot had over 300 F250s and F150s on the lot.

You have to do your research before you buy and the only place in the world that the payload number is identified in on the door column of the truck you are looking at. The numbers in the catalogs are all what is possible not what you buy.

Please learn from my mistakes and don't buy unless you look at the door column. BTW there isn't a truck salesman out there that understands the RV requirements or even know what the trucks they are selling can do. Do not believe anything the salesman says. They just don't know.
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That snowplow prep killed your available payload. When doing research ya really need to know what each opinion adds to the truck.
What part of the snowplow prep kills payload?. I thought snowprep got you heavier springs in the front. While camper prep got them front and back....I would figure snowplow prep might add to payload, but not reduce it.
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F250 Sticker Payload Shock

We have a 2017 F350 Lariat ccsb 4x4 6.7 Diesel with snowplow prep and our payload is 3555lbs.
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