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06-26-2013, 06:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Robert I agree that info is on the same sticker I referred to.
The great white north ,well they look at mathematics and engineering as a conspiracy against minivans and economy cars......roll eyes lol
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06-26-2013, 07:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Mississauga
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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my 2011 f150 has max tow and heavy duty payload and ecoboost and 8 foot box.
Payload is 2700 lb. Now you can't get that in the fancy packages. Probably only in a XLT. But tow capacity is also 11,200lb.
3.73 rear axle ratio. the mileage is still really good if you keep your speed reasonable.
Check out all available packages before deciding.
Al
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06-26-2013, 08:17 PM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAl
my 2011 f150 has max tow and heavy duty payload and ecoboost and 8 foot box.
Payload is 2700 lb. Now you can't get that in the fancy packages. Probably only in a XLT. But tow capacity is also 11,200lb.
3.73 rear axle ratio. the mileage is still really good if you keep your speed reasonable.
Check out all available packages before deciding.
Al
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You can get HD payload in 2 configurations of Lariat trim also, but nothing higher.
Lariat is more than enough for me, thought King Ranch seats are VERY nice.
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06-26-2013, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Unfortunately there are none in stock the majority of the time.And then there is the question do the really ride a lot softer than the f250 being a over sprung 1/2 ton with a light duty chassis and brakes.What will the resale value be as it is not a cushy 1/2 city truck nor is it the 3/4 Superduty workhorse.Steel wheels only on the HD payload pack... Who knows about the real cost savings if any to go with a small v6 with tiurbos and Hd springs or a 3/4 ton with hd chassis, brakes,rear differential and progressive springs not to mention radiator transmission driveshaft and all the other differences along a proven resale track record.The initial cost upfront is one thing but if you ever sell your vehicles or trade them in you must also factor in resale for a true cost.I myself did not see any significant mileage difference when researching after you lower the gear ratio on the 1/2 ton.
When I found that the dealers would not stock the HD package on the F150 Iknew it was not for me.But everyone has there own opinion that's what makes this a great world.
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06-26-2013, 09:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 30' Safari
Kanata
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
You can get HD payload in 2 configurations of Lariat trim also, but nothing higher.
Lariat is more than enough for me, thought King Ranch seats are VERY nice.
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I have the 2012 Lariat Supercrew, Ecoboost, HD Payload, Max Tow. 6.5ft box.
2150 lbs payload as listed on the door jam. Within a few pounds when measured on the scales.
Tow capacity is 8900 lbs when truck at maximum payload.
It was hard to find this truck - I could have special ordered, however we wanted to get one sooner then the order lead time. It was the end of the 2012 model year and there was only 1 left in Canada. I had to travel about 1400kms to get it...fun road trip. Seriously.
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06-26-2013, 09:31 PM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,536
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moflash
Unfortunately there are none in stock the majority of the time.And then there is the question do the really ride a lot softer than the f250 being a over sprung 1/2 ton with a light duty chassis and brakes.What will the resale value be as it is not a cushy 1/2 city truck nor is it the 3/4 Superduty workhorse.Steel wheels only on the HD payload pack... Who knows about the real cost savings if any to go with a small v6 with tiurbos and Hd springs or a 3/4 ton with hd chassis, brakes,rear differential and progressive springs not to mention radiator transmission driveshaft and all the other differences along a proven resale track record.The initial cost upfront is one thing but if you ever sell your vehicles or trade them in you must also factor in resale for a true cost.I myself did not see any significant mileage difference when researching after you lower the gear ratio on the 1/2 ton.
When I found that the dealers would not stock the HD package on the F150 Iknew it was not for me.But everyone has there own opinion that's what makes this a great world.
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What you're talking about may be opinion, but it's certainly not fact. I'm sure XLs with HD payload have steel wheels, but Lariats have 17" aluminum 7-lug wheels. It's not about being "oversprung", it's a different rear axle with the 7-lug hubs and E-rated tires from the factory. If you want to buy an F250 go ahead, there are plenty out there. Don't tell people who don't want a 3/4 ton truck they are making a mistake and then pretend that's not what you're doing.
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06-26-2013, 09:45 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2013 23' International
Fremont
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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Just another data point on payload. I have a 2013 Lariat SuperCrew, EcoBoost, MaxTow, 5.5 ft box, 3.73 rear axle. My payload sticker is listed as 1738 lbs. I've been happy with the mpg. HD payload would have been nice, but truck length was a factor.
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06-26-2013, 09:50 PM
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
I think part of the reasons they don't stock those configurations in Lariats is that the "fancy" factory wheels aren't compatible with the 7-lug hubs, and of course EVERYONE needs 20" wheels on their pickup, right?
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The bigger wheels and tires make the potholes smaller! You can get the 20" wheels from Ford for the heavy hauling, but they have 8 lugs.
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06-26-2013, 10:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Sorry I have no hidden agenda to convert the world into buying 3/4 ton trucks.Nor is it a conspiracy to do away with F150's And if you can now get 17 inch wheels in alloy I stand corrected
.I also went thru this decision process and found the factory literature to be very confusing with a lot of astrics and fine print.The dealership employees could not answer many of my questions when it came time to make a decision on purchasing .So I dug deeper into researching the pros and cons of each model and I thought I would share it with the people looking now to purchase.
If I upset you or hurt your feelings let me apologize to you.Sorry
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06-27-2013, 08:32 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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My 76 has a reasonably light tongue (~500 dry) and we travel lightly enough - I don't expect to put much, if anything, in the truck box.
Get yourself a nice sedan. A minivan. Something sensible.
My folks pulled their heavier 1975 Silver Streak all over the US and Canada with a luxury sedan for more than 12-years (before replacing it with another vehicle). And as many as four adults plus a teen aboard.
A TV with a low center of gravity and fully independent suspension is a much better match in every respect. A truck worsens every aspect of road performance and braking.
Andrew Thomson at CAN AM RV in London, ON is worth a phone call or email. See his threads and posts around here.
Take your time. There is no challenge in pulling that trailer from any aspect.
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06-27-2013, 09:36 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Briarcliff
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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You will love it................
I have a 2013 SuperCrew XLT 2WD EcoBoost 3.55 electric locker - NO Max tow - NO HD payload package. #7,100 GVWR
Payload sticker is # 1,642 - and that factors in full fuel IIRC? (26 gal.)
Tongue weight is between #530 and #700 - depends.
2 adults in the cab, a few hundred in the bed for camping.
EcoBoost RULES! - don't even know the trailer is there. Like a little diesel.
400+ ft./lbs. torque at 2,000 or so..................NICE!
I get around 12 MPG when towing a #5,100ish 27' 1966 T27 Avion
20 MPG when not towing on the Hwy at 75 MPH (Texas!)
BTW - The back seat legroom in a SuperCrew is FANTASTIC - like a limo!.
The only thing I may change is a switch to LT E rated tires......as it comes with HD P's
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06-28-2013, 02:11 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1982 34' Limited
Harrowsmith
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Excellent, thanks for sharing that!
We're out with the trailer right now and went looking at trucks today so this is timely news!
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Originally Posted by 7GenTex
I have a 2013 SuperCrew XLT 2WD EcoBoost 3.55 electric locker - NO Max tow - NO HD payload package. #7,100 GVWR
Payload sticker is # 1,642 - and that factors in full fuel IIRC? (26 gal.)
Tongue weight is between #530 and #700 - depends.
2 adults in the cab, a few hundred in the bed for camping.
EcoBoost RULES! - don't even know the trailer is there. Like a little diesel.
400+ ft./lbs. torque at 2,000 or so..................NICE!
I get around 12 MPG when towing a #5,100ish 27' 1966 T27 Avion
20 MPG when not towing on the Hwy at 75 MPH (Texas!)
BTW - The back seat legroom in a SuperCrew is FANTASTIC - like a limo!.
The only thing I may change is a switch to LT E rated tires......as it comes with HD P's
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