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Old 02-06-2016, 12:28 PM   #15
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The few that have managed to buy a Titan XD (worst new vehicle rollout in history) all report they paid MSRP. They all love the truck for it's reasonable size and handling with very healthy towing ability.

No one has reported towing a travel trailer yet but a fellow towing 9000# of enclosed box trailer reported 13mpg at mostly 65 mph cruising.

Still too few owners though to get a decent feel for the truck.

Personally, I am waiting until:

A. The dealer supply is great enough that price becomes negotiable

B. The 5.6 liter gas version specs are published

Don't really want diesel but nothing chiseled in stone.

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I have been waiting for this 10 speed with EB and hope it works out. I also am looking at the new 1/2 ton Titan Diesel, 14"+ breaks, engine braking, etc...
Cummins® 5.0-liter DOHC 32-valve V8 Turbo Diesel engine
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A 1k TW will be down to about 650-lbs on the TV when hitched up.

Leaves plenty of "capacity".

Tire and axle ratings are the real determinants.
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Having owned a Ram 2500 with CTD and exhaust brake and a Foretravel 36' diesel motor home with Allison 6 speed equipped with their transmission retarder, along with other motorhomes with CTD and exhaust brake, I can say that as good as the exhaust brake is, the transmission retarder system gives you braking in all 6 speeds.

It was a pleasure to drive the Foretravel!!!!!!


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Old 02-07-2016, 04:03 PM   #19
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A higher number of speeds does not make up for torque or horsepower, I remember a middle 60's ford 850 with a 4-53 detroit, it had a 5 and 4, giving you 20 speeds forward , you still had a 4-53 which wouldn't pull your hat off your head.
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A higher number of speeds does not make up for torque or horsepower, I remember a middle 60's ford 850 with a 4-53 detroit, it had a 5 and 4, giving you 20 speeds forward , you still had a 4-53 which wouldn't pull your hat off your head.

That may not be a fair comparison here, since you were trying to move a medium duty truck with half the hp and less than 2/3 the torque of the little 3L in question here (I'm assuming that particular 4-53 didn't have the turbo, you might not have hated it as much if it did.)


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F-150 Diesel...10 Speed Automatic

A 4-53T would make about 170 HP.

Not a bad little engine in the right application.

(For those who don't know, a 4-53T was a four cylinder 212 cubic inch two stroke cycle diesel with a scavenging supercharger and a turbocharger. )

They would only go about 120,000 miles between rebuilds, but the rebuilds were cheap.

I had one in a 26' box truck in front of a five speed (5th OD with lockup) Allison and a two speed rear end. (34,000 GVW)

That said, 10 speed transmissions for light vehicles,,,,, well,,,, IMHO it started getting ridiculous at six forward gears, ten is just kinda dumb, a result of pushing government regulation to the edge no doubt.


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Now I did not own this detroit, I worked with a guy who worked it , it did not have a turbo, what ever the horsepower it must have been rated at 2400 rpm,it was a real jewel, LOL
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A 4-53T would make about 170 HP.

Not a bad little engine in the right application.

(For those who don't know, a 4-53T was a four cylinder 212 cubic inch two stroke cycle diesel with a scavenging supercharger and a turbocharger. )

They would only go about 120,000 miles between rebuilds, but the rebuilds were cheap.

I had one in a 26' box truck in front of a five speed (5th OD with lockup) Allison and a two speed rear end. (34,000 GVW)

That said, 10 speed transmissions for light vehicles,,,,, well,,,, IMHO it started getting ridiculous at six forward gears, ten is just kinda dumb, a result of pushing government regulation to the edge no doubt.


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While I understand why you would say that, The addition of more forward gears allows for the design and tuning of an engine to a very narrow tq/HP band....approaching or achieving and atkinson cycle engine's efficiency. Is that efficiency requirement a Govt Reg.....arguably yes, due to CAFE requirements. BUT, we are already seeing efficiencies going up and power densities going up at the same time. Whether it is through advanced turbocharging and small displacement or through variable valve timing, cyl deactivation, etc. in large displacement engines. Both technologies have provided (for truck applications) low end torque and HP specs that we would've thought impossible 30 years ago. Heck, I was told, in a class discussion, that direct injection of gasoline was chemically and physically impossible, and would never happen. That was 1983.

My crystal ball says that next on the hit parade, after 10 speeds and even flatter power curves, is the elimination of camshafts and other valve train hardware and the addition of individual, infinitely variable (timing, lift and duration) hydraulic valve actuators.

Multiple (many) gears, or CVTs are necessary to get where we need to go, while enjoying even more HP and Torque in the future.
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I am thinking that a 4-53 without a turbo would be a slug.....


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I am thinking that a 4-53 without a turbo would be a slug.....


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