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Old 10-29-2015, 10:51 PM   #57
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6.7 Powerstroke!

If you want the latest design in a diesel engine, then buy a new Gen2 6.7L Ford Power stroke. Not only is it the most powerful diesel, it is the only one designed and manufactured by the truck maker.
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Old 10-30-2015, 01:37 AM   #58
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If you want the latest design in a diesel engine, then buy a new Gen2 6.7L Ford Power stroke. Not only is it the most powerful diesel, it is the only one designed and manufactured by the truck maker.
And this is good why?



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Old 10-30-2015, 04:33 AM   #59
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Ford might be wonderful, as a former ford guy, you couldn't run fast enough to sell me one, after what ford did to a lot of people with their 6 litre diesel and their problems , well IH built that engine not us they said , yea right, my dodge is doing fine, so are the duramax's....
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Old 10-30-2015, 07:10 AM   #60
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The October issue of Consumer Reports has a reliability analysis for cars & trucks. The trucks table has some interesting data, though it does not separate the vehicles out by engine type or anything else. There's just one bucket for each model of truck.

For the 1/2 ton category, the Tundra is ~45% more reliable than average. The F-150 is ~25% better than average for reliability, Ram 1500 is ~25% worse than average, while the Chevy & GMC 1500 are both 45% worse than average.

For the 3/4 ton category, the Chevy Silverado is ~25% more reliable than average, the F-250 is about 10% more reliable than average, and the Ram 2500 is 153% less reliable than average. Yes, you read that right. One hundred fifty three percent less reliable than average. Seems kinda high, but that's what it says here.

So, if we were to upgrade from our 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton, we'd probably start by lookingever at the Silverado 2500.

BTW, thus far our RAM 1500 has been great (knocking wood). Perhaps, like all the children in Lake Woebegone, our truck came out above average.
Ever since consumer reports was caught lying several years ago, I don't take anything they report seriously.
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Old 10-30-2015, 07:50 AM   #61
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And this is good why?



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Agreed.

And those Fords look real good with their cab up in the air off of the frame to work on the engine.

That's almost like being told you have to lift the shell off if your AS to fix a piece of water pipe.
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Old 10-30-2015, 08:09 AM   #62
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We are on our second Toyota 5.7 V8s. The 07 had 121, 000 trouble free miles and was still on the original brakes. Replaced a serpentine belt and a set of tires. Got a great deal on a new one in 2012--it now has almost 70, 000 trouble free miles and we replaced the original tires at 65, 000 miles. Some decontenting of the new ones and my hope for better pulling both uphill and better holdback going down the mts are making us look to diesel powered 2500 "big three" trucks. Unfortunately, much of what we're reading on the threads is not making any of the three look like a safe bet. We'll possibly wait for the Nissan Titan with the Cummins this December. We tried advice we were given about driving ith the trailer in the mts in fourth gear, we use fifth normally, but it raised the rps' s from roughly 2, 200 to just over 3, 000 rpm's, and the gas mileage dropped from the 10.5 to 11, to roughly 7.5, the worst either Toyota has ever gotten. so we have to agree, the 2012 seems more Impotent towing the '25 Airstream in the mts. But don't know if we can live with poor repair performance that we have lived through with all of the big three.

Why do you feel you need a big diesel to pull a 25'er ? I tow mine with a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a V M Mororti diesel. It also has an 8 speed trans. I get 30 as a daily driver and 16 towing my 2013 25' International. If I wanted a bigger heavier trailer I would consider a truck. My jeep also has air ride and lowers itself to ease getting in and out.
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Had a 2010 Tundra 5.7L. I found manual shifting helped handling hills. On my trip to Utah and back I kept it in 5th and when approaching a hill would shift down to maintain 60mph. This was on interstates and two lane winding roads. Once I crested the hill then shifted up. My Tundra had the shifter on the center console so it was easy to to shift then the buttons on the column shifter. Never had to floor the accelerator. Depressing the accelerator too much affects mileage more than higher rpms in lower gears. 55 to 60mph is what I aim to keep the speed at unless the road conditions warrant lower speeds.

I now have a Ram 2500 CTD. Time will tell on the reliability. I contacted several members on this forum for their opinions before purchasing.

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If you don't want the latest technology, the most powerful diesel engine, the only engine that is designed and built by the truck manufacturer and that is sold in 75% of the number one selling HD trucks in America, then I guess, that it isn't good for "you."
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Old 10-30-2015, 09:13 AM   #65
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This is becoming a very interesting thread....we just put 3,300 more miles on our 2012 F150 Echoboost the past 3 weeks, pulling our 25' FC around from San Diego to Montana and back...(nice time to visit the parks in southern Utah)...turned a little over 73k miles this trip and no issues. Averaged 10.1 mpg overall with average speeds 68-72. Not sure what we will do or when we will do it in regards to a new TV; for now, the EB is doing it's job well, and we love the ride....mileage not as good as some reporting with diesel, however. For those considering a new Ford, saw this link regarding Ford sales event: Ford to offer big deals on most new vehicles
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I did a lot of research on this before buying my truck in 2010. I was deeply enamored of the Chevy Duramax. I was ready to buy a NEW 2010 Dodge or Chevy. I ended up buying a 2006 Dodge Ram 2500 Laramie with a hard tonneau cover. The only modification I have made was to add a set of dash gauges (pyrometer, trans temp and boost), and to dump the custom wheels and go back to original wheels with Michelin low rolling resistance highway tires.

I bought a 2006 because it was the last full model year for the 5.9L Cummins diesel engine. I searched the US for a truck that had been broken in with highway miles. My lucky find ("The Tomato") was a bright red model with 75K miles. I tow a restored 1983 Avion 34V. My typical towing MPG is between 23 to 26 mpg, mostly around 24 to 25. My unloaded MPG is between 31 to a high of 37.6 mpg. That VASTLY exceeds my wildest expectations of 24 mpg unloaded and 18 towing. I tow at 60 to 65 mph, and use the pyrometer to drive for maximum mpg.

As you can imagine, I LOVE this truck. I would have rather had a new one, but that giant sucking sound you hear from new Dodge 6.7L engines is fuel being used at an alarming rate! Either way, the Cummins 350K mile life expectancy vs 250K for the Chevy is always good. And you can't beat any Inline 6 for fuel economy. My only wish is that it had an Alison 1000 transmission, like I used to have on my old Freightliner FL60 (used to tow a 18K lb high-line 5th wheel).

I couldn't be happier than with Stella (the Avion) and the Tomato.

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Wow, those mpg figures are about ten mpg better than I get. Towing or not. Wish I could get that.
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The October issue of Consumer Reports has a reliability analysis for cars & trucks. The trucks table has some interesting data, though it does not separate the vehicles out by engine type or anything else. There's just one bucket for each model of truck.

For the 1/2 ton category, the Tundra is ~45% more reliable than average. The F-150 is ~25% better than average for reliability, Ram 1500 is ~25% worse than average, while the Chevy & GMC 1500 are both 45% worse than average.

For the 3/4 ton category, the Chevy Silverado is ~25% more reliable than average, the F-250 is about 10% more reliable than average, and the Ram 2500 is 153% less reliable than average. Yes, you read that right. One hundred fifty three percent less reliable than average. Seems kinda high, but that's what it says here.

So, if we were to upgrade from our 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton, we'd probably start by looking at the Silverado 2500.

BTW, thus far our RAM 1500 has been great (knocking wood). Perhaps, like all the children in Lake Woebegone, our truck came out above average.
Mirrors our experience ...
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If you don't want the latest technology, the most powerful diesel engine, the only engine that is designed and built by the truck manufacturer and that is sold in 75% of the number one selling HD trucks in America, then I guess, that it isn't good for "you."

First I'm not on the market for a new TV. But I do almost all of my fleets maintenance and repairs including keeping a VW Beetle TDI running. My 5'er camping buddy bought a nice 2011 F350 6.7L. As a purely personal observation way too crowded under that hood to do anything even slightly major on it. And his was in a ford dealers over a month with the cab off for valve guide TSB repairs on a cyl head.

The Cummins has been refined and refined. I'm keeping my '05 Dodge Cummins.

And if we follow the logic that several have expressed about sales numbers proving superiority why do we have Airstreams? Obviously we should be towing a Montana 5'er with several slides.

To the OP best wishes sorting out what works for you.
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Hi from AZ. . . interesting thread indeed ! Looks like we're getting more & more choices out there (Colorado w/diesel, Nissan with Cummins diesel). I too have had excellent service out of my Ecoboost pulling my FC28. I was interested in the Ram 1500 diesel early on, but wanted to see how it actually performed. I've never had a diesel, so it would be a totally new experience to me. Seems like they are fairly expensive to maintain/service, but that's just heresay on my part. . . And as long as this Ford continues to perform, I'm happy.. . .travel safe out there, Craig
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Consumer reports is a great place to get information on toasters, vacuum's and foreign cars..............
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