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Old 08-10-2013, 05:28 PM   #15
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I ordered a 2014 Ram Laramie 2500 4x4 about 10 days ago to replace my 2012 Infiniti QX56 4x4 as my new tow vehicle. Infiniti has been fantastic for the 16,000 miles I've towed with it. Unfortunately, just don't have enough room inside for 2 Honda 2000's, extra camping gear and two basset hounds. The Infiniti has a rear lift system which is sometimes problematic when trying to determine whether I've done a good job dialing in WD, or whether the vehicle is doing it for/to me. (And I am not about to pull a fuse or a breaker, either.) The 2014 2500 will have coils on the rear along with some added suspension mods for a better ride -- we'll see. I'll report back after I've towed with the new truck.
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Old 08-10-2013, 06:10 PM   #16
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In January 2013, I took my 2012 Dodge Ram 2500HD directly from the Dodge dealership to Keldermans in Iowa and had a self leveling air suspension installed both front and rear. The rear of the truck was lowered to sit level all the time. While the rear Firestone airbags are rated 10,000 pounds, the axle is rated 6.010 pounds. They also installed an air pump with three gallon air tank and I had them put in an air chuck by the license plate to enable topping up air pressure in the truck and trailer tires.

I have a manual dump valve to unload air on the rear bags to get the tailgate lowered for me to put stuff in the back.

The ride is much improved over the steel suspension.
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I ordered a 2014 Ram Laramie 2500 4x4 about 10 days ago to replace my 2012 Infiniti QX56 4x4 as my new tow vehicle. Infiniti has been fantastic for the 16,000 miles I've towed with it. Unfortunately, just don't have enough room inside for 2 Honda 2000's, extra camping gear and two basset hounds. The Infiniti has a rear lift system which is sometimes problematic when trying to determine whether I've done a good job dialing in WD, or whether the vehicle is doing it for/to me. (And I am not about to pull a fuse or a breaker, either.) The 2014 2500 will have coils on the rear along with some added suspension mods for a better ride -- we'll see. I'll report back after I've towed with the new truck.
Did you order the diesel or gasser?
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Old 08-11-2013, 07:50 AM   #18
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Diesel ... Can't imagine what 800 lbs of torque will do!
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:05 AM   #19
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Diesel ... Can't imagine what 800 lbs of torque will do!
You and me both. Very tempting sometimes...
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #20
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be nice to know the year of said truck. 145K is small potatoes for diesel engine.


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As a newcomer, I won't wade too far into the fray, but I bought what I knew, a decent 7.3 powerstroke F250 with 145k on the clock for 5500 bucks. After a blessing by my longtime mechanic. It pulls the 29 Sovereign like it isn't there and after this past trip of 600 miles it gets and honest 14-15 mpg pulling. No mods et al. I put a carpet kit in it and picked up new leather seats from eBay and it is quite nice. It isn't a BMW, I have one of those to drive when I don't need a truck. I think of the TV as a tool like a tractor, use when needed. Like the trailer, paid for is always better. 50k for a diesel pickup truck these days is nuts.
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be nice to know the year of said truck. 145K is small potatoes for diesel engine.
1996. Found on eBay and happened to be local, so I was able to inspect pretty well before bidding. I had a 95 F350 dually, bought new, and it was a great truck for the many miles it pulled horses and a 5ver. I would have liked a 5 speed manual, like the old one, but the auto seems solid and so far so good.
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i was looking on craigslist and see a 95 7.3L with 253K for $7500 so your deal was a DEAL..

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1996. Found on eBay and happened to be local, so I was able to inspect pretty well before bidding. I had a 95 F350 dually, bought new, and it was a great truck for the many miles it pulled horses and a 5ver. I would have liked a 5 speed manual, like the old one, but the auto seems solid and so far so good.
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The most expensive accessory for my Airstream continues to be the 2012 Doge Ram 2500HD truck.
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First post, and thought I would weigh in(no pun intended) on this discussion. I have a 13 2500 with the Cummins and an 11 1500 with the 5.7 hemi. Towed with both. I believe the 2500 is a much safter towing platform:


With my particular airstream, the tongue weight is getting pretty close to the max for most half ton pickups. I do have a weight distribution hitch, but I prefer when towing over mountain passes to have more truck than needed, vs the alternative.

The exhaust braking on my truck is fantastic(the best of the big three), and I towed over Snoqualmie, Lookout and the 4th of July passes without using the brakes on my truck or my trailer. The Cummins also provides excellent torque and you won't see a big loss of horsepower and torque to the wheel in high altitude(Colorado passes anyone? ).
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:00 PM   #25
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Sorry I have been so long getting back to this.

I like the coil springs in the 1500 Dodges, with some fifth wheels they are a little soft as they are on leaf sprung trucks but there are several aftermarket heavy duty springs available if necessary. If you get the side storage in the Dodge I think there is also a little less chassis flex, this is my perception not something I have been able to measure.

I think most of the bugs have been worked out of Air Suspension now. My 9 year old Jag has never had an issue and like that it still rides and handles today the same as it did new. We have a lot of customers with Air ride Mercedes and none have had an issue.

Air suspension can be tricky to ajust the torsion bars properly because you cannot measure it very easily also the suspension reacts much quicker to small ajustments. Where we might adjust with a 1/2" bolt with springs we may use a 5/16" bolt in the links with Air. On the Jag where I am never towing the same trailer twice I measure the tire temps after 30-60 minutes of towing and that tells me if I have the weight evenly balanced. The backs should be 10-20 degrees warmer than the fronts.

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I had a conversation with Andrew T. at Alumapalooza regarding towing with my 2012 Infiniti QX56 AWD - it has 4 wheel independent suspension with the auto level adjust. as well as another augmentation that minimizes body roll, etc. It has been a VERY satisfactory tow vehicle for the 12,000 miles I've had it. Unfortunately, what finally motivated the move to a 2014 RAM 4x4 with the Cummins was SPACE. Just not enough room in the Infiniti to haul two Honda 2000's plus all the other gear I haul AND the two dogs. The other factor was RAM putting coil springs in the 2500's this year, which -- from what I have read -- make a huge difference in this truck. It should arrive in 3-4 weeks, and I'll provide results of the first road test. Oh, and it's silver -- gosh, figure that!
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...coil springs in the 1500 Dodges...little less chassis flex
Hi Andrew,

Is the chassis flex caused by the coil springs vs. leaf?
Or the Dodge's frame (is it a C-Channel frame or a box frame)?

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Hi Jake

All pickups have chassis flex that increases gradually as the truck ages. It is easy to assume that the big truck frame would be completely ridgid but in actuality it can flex a great deal. The body because of its much larger surface area is much stronger. A GM pick up regularcab flexes a lot but the Suburban on the identical chassis has very little flex by comparison. A good solid unit body vehicle such as a Touareg for example will flex even less. Also the long the vehicle is the more it will flex if the structure is the same. So a Tahoe will tend to be tighter than a Suburban for example.

When toiwng with a pickup if you know what you are looking for you can feel the flex in the chassis translate into a surge in the ride. This is less than it used to be but still there. I think the sotrage boxes on the Dodge may strenghten the box thereby reducing some of the flex.

Next time you are driving beside (riding as a passenger) a flat bed transport trailer you will notice it flexes a great deal when it hits dips in the road even though the frame is 24" deep. Then look at an enclosed transport trailer. It hardley flexes at all with no frame rails.

This video from ford illustrates it very well. Also note how the front tires which are independent suspension stay on the road and on coarse so much better than the live axle rear suspensions do.

Ford F150 vs Chevy vs Toyota - Bed Bounce - YouTube


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