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Old 08-12-2014, 12:11 PM   #1
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Does Dodge RAM's Integrated Sway Control Work Well With Friction Sway Control?

My 2013 RAM 1500 has integrated sway control as part of the tow/haul ECU. Does anyone happen to know whether this supplements or perhaps supplants the friction sway control Husky included in my WD system?

Might they even be in conflict and would I be better off not running the friction system?
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Does your owner's manual make reference to friction sway control?
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Does your owner's manual make reference to friction sway control?
Yes. The manual addresses both the electronic and manual systems. It implies that the electronic system may take over where the manual system leaves off to control sway. It doesn't really talk about their interaction or how they may or may not interfere with one another.

"Trailer Sway Control
The trailer sway control can be a mechanical telescoping
link that can be installed between the hitch receiver and
the trailer tongue that typically provides adjustable friction
associated with the telescoping motion to dampen
any unwanted trailer swaying motions while traveling.

If equipped, the electronic Trailer Sway Control (TSC)
recognizes a swaying trailer and automatically applies
individual wheel brakes and/or reduces engine power to
attempt to eliminate the trailer sway."

"Trailer Sway Control (TSC) – If Equipped
The TSC system uses sensors in the vehicle to recognize
an excessively swaying trailer and will take the appropriate
actions to attempt to stop the sway. The system
may reduce engine power and apply the brake of the
appropriate wheel(s) to counteract the sway of the trailer.
TSC will become active automatically once an excessively
swaying trailer is recognized. No driver action is required.
Note that TSC cannot stop all trailers from
swaying. Always use caution when towing a trailer and
follow the trailer tongue weight recommendations. Refer
to “Trailer Towing” in “Starting and Operating” for
further information. When TSC is functioning, the “ESC
Off Indicator Light” will flash, the engine power may be
reduced and you may feel the brakes being applied to
individual wheels to attempt to stop the trailer from
swaying. TSC is disabled when the ESC system is in the
“Partial Off” or “Full Off” modes.
TSC is only active in the default “ESC On” mode. TSC
can be disabled by pressing the “ESC Off” switch and
entering “ESC Partial Off” mode. It is not active in the
“ESC Partial Off” or “ESC Off” modes. Refer to the ESC
portion of this section for an explanation of the different
ESC operating modes."
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Never had a sway issue with either the Hensley hitch or the second generation Hensley design - ProPride.
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There was a post by someone last week who had a Ram or Jeep GC (can't recall which) where the TV sway control activated and seemed to work for them. Sorry, can't recall who made the post either.
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We have a 2012 Ram 1500 with the electronic sway control. There is no sway possible with our ProPride hitch, and I never had any sway before either with other style hitches. But there was a lot of pushing around by semis and heavy gusting side winds. The electronic sway control does not mitigate those forces, the ProPride does.
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My 2013 RAM 1500 has integrated sway control as part of the tow/haul ECU. Does anyone happen to know whether this supplements or perhaps supplants the friction sway control Husky included in my WD system?

Might they even be in conflict and would I be better off not running the friction system?
From reading the owner's manual, I would say it activates if whatever sway control you have (or don't have) fails to control sway. I don't think that the friction sway control would, or could interfere with the RAM's integrated sway control. I'm sure if it did interfere there would be a big caution from RAM on the subject.
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I have only had the factory sway control kick in on my f250 one time.

I had to quickly change lanes on on a section of interstate that was being repaved. It it had to be a 6" drop off! I felt a slight shudder back and forth and the dash waring light came on.

It was very quick, the drop off bumpy, but I really can't say there was any noticeable sway on the trailer......I just cannot believe the Reese bars even moved enough to do their thing.

I hope I never need it again but I am going to stick to my opinion (for now ) that the dual cam bars on the hitch are arresting most minor sway before it starts and the truck will kick in if there are enough sway forces for the electronic sensors to notice.
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Yes, on all such systems regardless of friction, haha or PP - the vehicle notices the rear end wiggling - applies brakes till the oscillating stops.
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I have had two BMW vehicles with electronic Trailer Stability Control as part of the Dynamic Control System. Although I had the warning light illuminate on the dash for vehicle stability at times (usually on snow) I never saw it come on when towing, even in snow. It is more of an insurance policy.

I can't imagine the electronic system conflicting with the mechanical system. It only measures the results of sway (using vehicle yaw sensors, steering angle sensors, etc). It certainly doesn't replace proper hitch and trailer set up to minimize problems before they start.

It is like anti lock brakes. Just because we have them now, we shouldn't stop taking reasonable precautions like watching the road ahead and braking in advance of problems. And if we do that we will hopefully never need them. But they are nice to have just in case.

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