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Old 07-19-2016, 12:04 PM   #15
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Our Eqializer is the same basic design as my first one in the mid 70s. Won't leave home without it
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Old 07-19-2016, 12:19 PM   #16
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Not necessarily
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Old 07-19-2016, 12:44 PM   #17
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One more question. I can pick up an almost new Equalizer hitch 10,000lbs/1,000lb for $385. Is that a good deal and will it work for my application?
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Old 07-19-2016, 12:46 PM   #18
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Didn't we just go through this a week or two ago?��
I didn't own an Airstream two weeks ago,

BTW aren't Canadians supposed to be nice?
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Old 07-19-2016, 01:05 PM   #19
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Receiver hitch with sway control.
http://www.etrailer.com/Ball-Mounts/...FUuSfgodYkIBxg
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Old 07-19-2016, 01:08 PM   #20
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What do think?

I just bought a 1974 Argosy 26. I am pretty sure it weighs somewhere in the ballpark of 4000lbs. I will be towing it with a long bed crew cab f350. I have towed much more weight than this without a weight distributing hitch, but not a travel trailer. I am pretty sure I'll be fine.

Thanks for the input.
Hi Peter, from a fellow vintage kin OCer,

We've been renting 3/4 ton Fords/Dodge-RAM from Enterprise Commercial Rentals up here in Orange for a few years, until we decided to get our own TV & while we are looking, with our 1960 Avion T20 - which is probably a bit lighter than yours.

I got a Hensley Cub for the sway control/elimination & ease of use, because of our narrow driveway & streets up here in Old Towne Orange, we knew we would ultimately get a smaller, lighter & shorter wheelbase mid-size SUV with V8 (& had rented Nissan Pathfinders in 2013 from Hooman Nissan in Long Beach, but 4.0L V6).

So with a 3/4 vs. 1 ton truck & 3000-3500 vs 4000-5000 trailer - it's a decent comparison, & I don't see much difference with the trailer hitched as far as the WD goes (in fact I get the same mpg hitched or not!), but the sway control is a definite plus for cruising. As we are with 3/4T - you're seriously over-TVed with the 1T, but it's already in your stable.

I don't know what year your F350 is nor if it has their electronic sway control built in, but if it does, then that should cover you on SC, based on my experience bringing our Avion from Albuquerque with a F150 that had the Ford built-in SC/Tow package on a "bare ball."

Now "on a completely different subject" - you may want to see if you can get in on the waiting list with your "new" vintage AS for the upcoming "Ride the Wild Surf" vintage trailer rally right here in OC (or at least come up for the Saturday public open house to visit with other vintage trailer folk).

http://www.vintagetrailercamp.com/ev...the-wild-surf/


PS - I just saw your Equalizer question, & yes it would work, but their sway control is 2 optional friction units L & R of the hitch unit, which you can buy from Equalizer, if that hitch doesn't have them already. I don't know their current pricing to compare it with the used price, but you can check at eTrailer.com for their pricing, but note that there are always sales - so deduct at least 20-30% off full retail for your comparo use.

PSS - if you plan to & want to check out the vintage trailer rally scene, this one in Sept/Oct in OC is a good way to see, as they're all so popular that it generally means signing up several months to a year ahead, but then you'll get a significant discount off the "normal" RV Park/Campground fees, have lots of vintage trailerites activities, & will be camping with the friends you make at the events (vs. camping at campgrounds with folks you don't know).

PSSS - Look us up if you make it, & we'll introduce you around to some of our vintage buddies, one of whom make DW hotdogs for all comers at this one, so bring the family! It's also a classic car/truck show with the old TVs many use as well.

Cheers!
Tom
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Old 07-19-2016, 01:24 PM   #21
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I have a 28' Flying Cloud which I pulled last year with a 1/2 ton GMC. I used a weight distribution hitch. These hitches are heavy, dirty, and cumbersome.
In DEC I bought a 3/4 ton GMC with the Duramax. I ran a 2,000 mile test, 1,000 miles with the distribution hitch and 1,000 miles with just a hook up to a greased ball.
The results surprised me as there was absolutely no difference in towing. The Airstream does not sway behind a 3/4 ton GMC with no weight distribution hitch and the diesel engine.

I just got back from a 7,000 mile trip from FL to Portland and back through all of the CO passes and I can confirm that the 28'Flying Cloud behind a 3/4 ton GMC with the Duramax does not need a weight distributing hitch. Zero sway, zero issues. I love not messing with the heavy hitch ball assembly.
Your call. I suggest you run the same test I did.
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Old 07-19-2016, 05:18 PM   #22
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99 F250 SuperDuty extra cab diesel towing a 1975 Overlander 28' (around 6,000# loaded) with a normal hitch ... no anti-sway, no WD ... no problems.
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Old 07-19-2016, 06:56 PM   #23
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I have a Blue Ox for my 30' AS. I love it. Very simple but gives excellent sway control. Also no problems with backing up with it engaged. Less expensive than a Henley or Propride and so far after a couple years I always feel comfortable and in control. BTW, the longer the wheelbase, the more stable and the less sway you will experience. A long bed crew cab is the ultimate!
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Old 07-19-2016, 09:41 PM   #24
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Equalizer bars are designed to transfer some of the hitch weight to lower the front of the tow vehicle and transfer some weight back to the trailer. With a tow vehicle as heavy as yours, you don't need to transfer the weight particularly back to the trailer. Depending on the system you may be able to buy the hitch head and the sway controls separately and not use the bars. If you use bars get light 750# bars so you don't put increase the stress and beat your trailer up.

Andy at Inland RV has a good article addressing this based on his experience and also his opinion, but, worth reading before making your decision.

http://www.inlandrv.com/articles/towing_myths.pdf
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:46 AM   #25
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As you travel down the highways and biways take a look at the gajillions of utility, equipment, cargo and box trailers and note how many (few?) of them have any WD hitch on them.
Many of them will be hauling much heavier loads behind smaller pickups than you plan to do.
Then ask yourself these questions:
Are all those people are just dumb and uninformed?
Are Airstreams particularly difficult to tow?
Is this community made up of people who tend to worry a lot and have more dough than common sense?
You will be pulling a 4000 lb trailer with an 7000 lb vehicle. To me the notion of a WD system on that setup is rediculous
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Old 07-20-2016, 04:26 AM   #26
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As you travel down the highways and biways take a look at the gajillions of utility, equipment, cargo and box trailers and note how many (few?) of them have any WD hitch on them.
Many of them will be hauling much heavier loads behind smaller pickups than you plan to do.
Then ask yourself these questions:
Are all those people are just dumb and uninformed?
Are Airstreams particularly difficult to tow?
Is this community made up of people who tend to worry a lot and have more dough than common sense?
You will be pulling a 4000 lb trailer with an 7000 lb vehicle. To me the notion of a WD system on that setup is rediculous

Huh?

It's pretty clear...there is nothing common about sense.


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Old 07-20-2016, 05:17 AM   #27
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Quite clear indeed . . .

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Old 07-21-2016, 07:36 AM   #28
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Weight distribution hitch

I tow an '88 Excella 1000 34 ft triple axel with an F350 dually and I have a WD hitch but I have never used it. The previous owner said I would not need it so I took an hour long test ride and he was exactly right. My breaks work very well and I also have air bags though they are not really needed either. I have never experienced any sway even with Semi units passing by me doing 70mph.

I hope this helps! Have fun!!
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