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04-29-2017, 12:37 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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Do I need a bigger WD hitch?
We pick up our beautiful 2007 Safari tomorrow. She's 25' long and dry weight of 5065. Our 2009 Tahoe with towing package is rated for 8500 pounds. Now the tongue weight of this Safari is 840 pounds and we just purchased a Curt 1000/10,000 WD hitch with stabilizers. Will this cut it or do I need to go bigger?
I feel good about all specifications with our Tahoe other than this tongue weight because I was expecting more of a 550-650 tongue weight.
We've basically only ever towed a tiny popup with a minivan. For the last two years, we've glamped in tents and now, the hubby decided to surprise me with this gorgeous Airstream.
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04-29-2017, 02:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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In my limited opinion, you should be just fine. Try the combination and see how it feels. Be sure and do a complete inspection and operate all systems prior to excepting the trailer.
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04-29-2017, 03:11 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I agree with chief. Enjoy.
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04-29-2017, 04:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 31' Classic
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,067
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Yes, you should be OK, but look carefully at the sway control systems. We were nearly killed when a Reese hitch failed in strong Texas winds.
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04-29-2017, 05:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
St. Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 415
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You want your WD bars to match your tongue weight, not exceed it.
You have the right equipment.
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04-29-2017, 08:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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Thanks so much! Ya'll are making me feel confident!
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04-29-2017, 08:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Your hitch weight at the hitch receiver should be about 1,000 lbs with the trailer loaded for travel. The w.d. hitch also has to lift any gear in the Tahoe loaded behind it's rear axle to be adequate to return the front axle to it's unloaded weight (or more, equally loaded axles give us the best handling and braking), ensure the Tahoe's rear axle is not overloaded, an distribute about 200 lbs to the trailer's axles.
You might be close (we need 1400 lb bars for our pickup and 25' Airstream). Take the truck to a CAT scale and see what load each Tahoe axle is carrying. Then when all hitched up and loaded and weight distribution set, take it back again and see what each Tahoe axle and the trailer axles are carrying. Compare the truck's front axle weights before and after, they should be the same or carry a little more with the trailer w.d. applied. Compare the Tahoe axle weights to the GAWR (axle weight ratings) on the door placard. Compare the trailer axle weights to it's GAWR. Compare the weight of the whole rig to the maximum combined weight for the Tahoe (you'll have to look this up).
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04-29-2017, 09:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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well my Tahoe has a third row seat. I'm guessing now nothing should be packed in that area. Normally, we take out those two seats and put our cooler. Thinking now we'd better just take out the seats and not put hardly anything there!
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04-29-2017, 09:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful1
well my Tahoe has a third row seat. I'm guessing now nothing should be packed in that area. Normally, we take out those two seats and put our cooler. Thinking now we'd better just take out the seats and not put hardly anything there!
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When you get it set up and loaded, take it to the CAT scale and see what you have, then you don't have to guess anymore. Think about what you really need with your new Airstream, it has a good fridge so maybe you don't need the cooler, for example. We use the far back of our truck for lighter gear, load any heavier items forward or in the Airstream.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
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04-30-2017, 01:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
St. Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful1
well my Tahoe has a third row seat. I'm guessing now nothing should be packed in that area. Normally, we take out those two seats and put our cooler. Thinking now we'd better just take out the seats and not put hardly anything there!
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We carry nothing in our truck except comfort items for the road like pillows and snacks. Your truck can pull about 8 times more weight in the trailer than it can carry in the back.
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04-30-2017, 03:49 PM
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Rivet Polisher
1973 31' Sovereign
Mt Pleasant
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alluminati
We carry nothing in our truck except comfort items for the road like pillows and snacks. Your truck can pull about 8 times more weight in the trailer than it can carry in the back.
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^^What he said AND you can distribute the weight in the trailer to help reduce tongue weight.
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04-30-2017, 06:18 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2010 20' Flying Cloud
Hailey
, Idaho
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 414
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Hopeful
In addition to what others said about the WD and sway control make sure you have the electric brake controller set just right. I pulled my little 20ft FC with both a '05 Yukon and '12 Tahoe (both with the 5.3L motor that I assume you have too), and was caught only once going downhill in PA hills with the umbilical disconnected. I don't ever want to do that again given the relatively short wheelbase of our Tahoes. Expect to get 11-12mpg. Safe travels. jon
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04-30-2017, 06:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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We have never hooked up the umbilical without a strap wrapped around it to secure the little catch on the socket from popping loose. Got that tip early on from Robert Cross on this forum. Thanks Bob, we like to keep our brakes all working.
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
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04-30-2017, 10:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B00merang
Hopeful
In addition to what others said about the WD and sway control make sure you have the electric brake controller set just right. I pulled my little 20ft FC with both a '05 Yukon and '12 Tahoe (both with the 5.3L motor that I assume you have too), and was caught only once going downhill in PA hills with the umbilical disconnected. I don't ever want to do that again given the relatively short wheelbase of our Tahoes. Expect to get 11-12mpg. Safe travels. jon
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Thanks so much for the tip! Embarrassed to say I thought our brake controller was a part of our tow package! Face palm. And so nifty to have to hardwire that sucker into the Tahoe (Gee, thanks GM!) instead of having a simple plug like other trucks and SUV's have! Lol.
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04-30-2017, 10:15 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
We have never hooked up the umbilical without a strap wrapped around it to secure the little catch on the socket from popping loose. Got that tip early on from Robert Cross on this forum. Thanks Bob, we like to keep our brakes all working.
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I'm curious if this umbilical cord is the problem that is causing only the right blinker and tail lights to work...and only if we keep the Tahoe's headlights on at all times.
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04-30-2017, 10:27 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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Well, all things considered, she tows pretty well with the Tahoe! We used the Curtis 1000/10000 WD hitch, anti-sway bar, and brake controller. We had no weight in the very rear of the Tahoe and hitched her as close to the Tahoe as possible and took it at a reasonable speed.
Question, will I need another tranny cooler if I already have the tow package?
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04-30-2017, 11:04 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
St. Louis
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful1
Question, will I need another tranny cooler if I already have the tow package?
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It won't hurt, but you shouldn't need it.
All tow packages are different, but typically they include things like a stronger tranny, larger alternator, upsized radiator, plug-n-play brake controller, extendable mirrors, larger brakes, heavier hitch receiver, and on and on.
Likely the stock transmission is strong enough, but I've heard that some add a larger oil pan with the tow package. With some research you may be able to find the specific features that were upgraded with the tow package.
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1989 Avion 34VB
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05-01-2017, 06:36 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari
Southwest VA
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 101
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Thank you very much. I appreciate the info!
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