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Old 03-03-2016, 08:17 PM   #29
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Isuzu and ijustlee Thats kinda where I was going. I love the way diesels pull and the fuel mileage but the newer ones can be a money pit. Thats why many of us are hanging on to our older trucks. I could buy a new one if I sold my AS and quit camping. Don't think that will work.
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:17 PM   #30
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For me, it has been a matter that diesel light duty vehicles are damn expensive to keep running.


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Old 03-03-2016, 08:37 PM   #31
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For me, it has been a matter that diesel light duty vehicles are damn expensive to keep running.


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My 07 6.7 gets oil changes every 6 months, 4500 to 5000 miles , change front and rear axle oil along with the tranny oil ,each 50000 miles, oil filters cost 7.00 and chevron 15-40 is about 36 dollars, has 97000 miles that is the only expense..you take care of them ,they will run a long time...my old cat has 1.4 million and head never been off, bearings rolled in at 1 million and didn't need it...
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:50 PM   #32
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For me it has been that my gas vehicles last 200,000 miles without a major repair, and my diesels cant break 100,000 miles without breaking the bank.

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Old 03-03-2016, 08:52 PM   #33
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Diesel Longevity

Big truck diesel engines are a in a different league.

Mine too often last well over a million miles without a major repair.

Other than some of the older Cummins and 7.3 Fords, light duty diesels don't impress me much.

In Little Rock, the "budget" price for new injectors in a Cummins is about 4K, the dealer price is about 8.5K......

Ask me how I know...

If new light duty diesels were 1/2 as reliable and long lived as big truck diesels I would be singing their praises, but they are not and I am not.

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Old 03-03-2016, 09:00 PM   #34
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We have over 175000 miles on our 2003 3/4ton Duramax Diesel, originally pulling a small SOB toy hauler. then pulling a 35 foot 5th wheel, and now towing our Airstream. A few years ago, i was about to trade the 2003 on a 2007 Duramax, but int he process, the wife said she hated her Minivan, and asked to keep the 2003 Duramax as her driver!! So now we have have two 3/4ton Duramax trucks... The 2003 gets 24-26 MPG when not towing, and 12-15 when pulling our Airstream. The 2007 Duramax, with about 128000 miles on it, gets 19-22 MPG when not towing, and about 11-13MPG when pulling the Airstream.

Both trucks were more expensive to start with, but after over 300,000+ miles on these two trucks, we are totally sold on Diesel trucks. We have driven coast to coast, and most every mountain road and pass from Glaicer NP in Montana, all of Colorado and most states to the west and south.

All service is with more expensive MR Goodwrench! I would certainly like to have a new Tow Vehicle, but these two trucks get great milage, have no expensive repairs, and have the power to run up the steepest grade, and engine braking down the other side, making travel very enjoyable.

So after 13 years of towing 5 different RV's over 300, 000 miles, we are very satisfied going with Diesel.

My brother and two friends did not go the more expensive initial Diesel cost, and all three of them are on their second or third tow vehicle in the same time period. I think in the long run, the higher Diesel cost has been a good economic, and towing choice decision!!
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:31 PM   #35
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As I said in my first post, I have two Fords with the 7.3.

1. 2000 Ford SD, Crew, 4x4 with 326,000 miles purchased new
2. 2002 Ford Excursion, 4x4 with 351,000 miles purchased used (23k on OD)

If you run the numbers, thats about 45,000 a year I put them, that does not include other vehicles I use for running around, my wife's daily driver or rentals when I travel. (Yes, I live in my car)

Bottom line is this, if I were able to find another Excursion or Truck with 25,000 on the OD, I would have to pay as much or more for it now than I did 15 years ago! And could sell either one of them today for around $10,000 or more, I'd have to say it was a good investment even with maint. cost, etc...

At this point, I fully expect to get 500k miles out them.

If you have a 7.3 with low miles and want to let it go, let me know!

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Old 03-03-2016, 09:43 PM   #36
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I trade every 3 years to minimize depreciation.I have been in the automobile business for many years and have found that if I trade every 36 mos I can drive a $68k F350 6.7 Platinum Supercrew 4x4 turbo diesel for less than a stripped down f150(K1500 or Ram)To drive a vehicle this expensive until it's worth nothing does not make sense to me.To each his own but I would rather drive a new vehicle every three years under warranty for less money but that's just me.lol


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It is true that having a new truck every three years is nice. But you are also in a permanent state of vehicle payment.

As for the Warranty, I was able to get a lifetime and unlimited mile bumper to bumper warranty for my Power Wagon. They don't offer that for any diesels.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:56 PM   #37
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I would be more concerned with the longevity of our Airstream behind some of these diesels and the rigid suspensions that carry them.

Gas engines and their transmissions have come a long way in recent years to pull very well, even better with better axle ratios. There are also a number of smaller diesels emerging on the market that are very capable of pulling our low profile, streamlined Airstreams.

The penalty of light vehicles and compliant suspensions is load carrying capacity. It's not for everybody, but manage payloads and hitch weights to expand your tow vehicle choices.
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I think the 3.0L V6 Diesels SUVs from Germany are good.

These things come off lease at less than half price, and the reliability on the newer ones is much better than years ago ... While you get something you can drive day to day in comfort.

Even the VW stigma is overdone and might mean some real deals.

The vehicle will look unsightly and rust out before these engines fail IMO.
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I think the 3.0L V6 Diesels SUVs from Germany are good.

These things come off lease at less than half price, and the reliability on the newer ones is much better than years ago ... While you get something you can drive day to day in comfort.

Even the VW stigma is overdone and might mean some real deals.

The vehicle will look unsightly and rust out before these engines fail IMO.
WARNING VW fanboy here..

I think the 3.0L are also implicated in the VW scandal as the Porshe Cayennes and Audi's have a stop sale on them.

I think that VW should not be allowed to sell ANY cars in NA until it fixes the problem. Then we would see some real speed in getting this fixed.

You can keep your $600.00 15,000 km oil changes thanks.

Back to the OP who is looking at purchasing a domestic P/U truck diesel....not a VW.

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i have a 1985 6.9 no turbo f-250, yes its slow but still gits the job done.
No smog junk on it no computer ect, wore out i traney and 2 starters.
I think i will stick with it ?.
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I got rid of my 92 IDI with about 190k on it. It needed a couple thousand of work done on it and that was if I did not find anything else wrong. It was always something with that truck. The only thing that I have that is diesel is my Kubota tractor and it has been bullet proof. I want nothing to do with them.

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WARNING VW fanboy here..

I think the 3.0L are also implicated in the VW scandal as the Porshe Cayennes and Audi's have a stop sale on them.

I think that VW should not be allowed to sell ANY cars in NA until it fixes the problem. Then we would see some real speed in getting this fixed.

You can keep your $600.00 15,000 km oil changes thanks.

Back to the OP who is looking at purchasing a domestic P/U truck diesel....not a VW.

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Not everyone has had the drink from the 3/4 or 1 ton truck Kool-Aid jug. The 3.0 L diesel engines on the German SUVs get the job done (27FB) and my last oil service including Ad blue was $140.00 USD.
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