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Old 04-15-2012, 06:40 PM   #29
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Rednax mentioned some good points, tuner and hitch connections.

I looked at a Dodge Cummins truck that someone already owned and we were trying to figure out tuner or not type of status. Many under hood box installations use a velcro tape and many mount to the power distribution fuse box cover. If it shows a piece of tape or is completely missing, thats a possible tuner sign. Look at the exhaust manifold above the turbo and then look at the turbo outlet for any drilled and tapped pipe plug holes. Dodge didn't spec EGR temp ports, drilled and tapped for 1/8 or 1/4 pipe is an indicator of an EGR thermocouple. Best way to use the info would be to ask about a tuner before pointing out these observations, seller upfront about knowledge of tuner compared to your observations.

One thing that is a little bit of a concern in my book would be a bunch of non factory wiring at the batteries. It can be done very professionally or really butchered. Also looking at the trailer connections will tell you how many backyard or roadside repairs have been done to the harness. Not a reason to walk away, reason to look closer.

Many times the std air intake is replaced with a high flow intake. Many do a great job, but several brands flow a bit more air at the expense of passing stuff that should have been trapped by the filter. Remove the top of the air box and then the filter if so equipped. VERY CAREFULLY take a super clean never been used piece of white cloth, reach down into the air tube that feeds the turbo and wipe the tube with the cloth a bit. Remove and carefully inspect cloth. It better be dust free and spotless.

Looking at a potential diesel is one thing, but for maybe $50 bucks or less (I'm including a little labor and some replacement engine oil) see if the seller will let you do an engine oil analysis. You buy the test kit, take a sample and mail it in, a few days or so later you get a report on the contaminants in the oil and the engines wear metals, show it to a diesel guy that ain't involved and get their opinion or call the test lab and try to pick their brains about interpreting their report.

OK, I'm a Cummins guy but my best buddies '11 Ford 6.7L at less than one year of service showed him a CHECK COOLANT light. It wasn't low, it was sensing that it needed freshening up on one of the critical additives that prevents cavitation (someone will chime in if i'm out in left field) so he ordered a test strip kit for the coolant to test and verify. Sure enough, it was low on additive, had to take it in to Ford and get the additive. Same time he ran a dip test on my 120,000 mile 7 year old Cummins, he threw the test strip away in discust, spot on. My coolant hasn't been changed yet, might do it this year just because its good for it.

If I was looking I'd be looking for a non-modified truck, the more they left it alone, the bigger $ premium I'd put on that particular truck.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:53 PM   #30
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You are already happy with the GM body. Why not Duramax?

When I talk the Dodge owners, I hear nothing but chassis and tranny complaints.

Ford rode the 7.3 to death, and has never gotten close to a replacement.

The Duramax/Allly is a 12 year old proven design in the best riding chassis on the road.

My humble opinion, of course.
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:57 PM   #31
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Very well done, GCinSC2!

FYI, the stock air filter box flows well enough to 450HP to make aftermarket unnecessary. There is no mpg gain with such. I'd dump any non-factory piece.

The info about velcro, tapped ports and the rest is "the evidence".

A new set of factory fuel injectors is around $3000 for the parts. Plus new connector tubes at around $900. Some tuners (and a bigger turbo that may have been installed at some point) add a lot of fuel. This is where the problems really come from. A bit of advanced mechanical timing, not so much.

The "kiddies" run them hard and unmercifully. And when it starts to act funny, they dump it. Swap gear back into place and get'em something else to dog on.

An aftermarket fuel pump (FASS or AIRDOG) is a good sign overall. Dodge didn't spec what Bosch would have preferred on filtration, plus the factory lift pump tends to go out at some point. This is an item I'll add on mine after a few other things done.

An exhaust brake, turbo-mounted or farther back, is not a bad sign. If a 5'er hitch is present expect that the trailer was likely 10k or heavier with both items present.

Be sure to slide underneath to examine a good prospect it's full length. All these trucks came with big steel two-piece driveshafts and prominent carrier bearing. One-piece aluminum are popular replacements . . usually as a result of a really heavy trailer of some sort.

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You are already happy with the GM body. Why not Duramax?

When I talk the Dodge owners, I hear nothing but chassis and tranny complaints.

Ford rode the 7.3 to death, and has never gotten close to a replacement.

The Duramax/Allly is a 12 year old proven design in the best riding chassis on the road.

My humble opinion, of course.
Only the 2001 LB-series motor could match CTD mpg. And only one other year (2007?) came close on reliability/longevity. Easier to hit a triple with a CTD overall (assuming 2WD/manual).
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:02 PM   #33
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Read my post. No complaints on the engine.

Keeping the chassis and tranny around it is the issue.

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Old 04-15-2012, 07:51 PM   #34
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Read my post. No complaints on the engine.

Keeping the chassis and tranny around it is the issue.

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My 5 speed manual (2wd) has been fine but it was my observation that the automatics seemed to go out at about 200k. This is based on feedback from other drivers when I was in the trailer hauling business. They are a good source of info since the miles are put on so fast.

Regarding the chassis I have never replaced anything except a u joint in over half a million miles. I did drill and tap the ball joints for grease fittings when I got the truck and that may be why I have had no problems.
My gripe with the truck has been a running fight with the air conditioner although the original compressor is still there.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:59 PM   #35
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:01 PM   #36
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Well, Rednax, you'll be disappointed because I got off track. What I did find is in the link I just posted, at $16,000.00. It's the 350, single axle, automatic. It's an 06, and I am concerned about the emissions conversion.

It will need new tires.

Was this included in the "run from it" quote?
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I thought you wanted something reliable. With good fuel mileage. With real longevity.

FORD is a fail on every category.

There will be people who tell you that the Sick-O engine and the later 6.4 are okay once you spend a few thousand on them. Alright, . . then why isn't Ford using them anymore?

So, not just a fail but, an epic fail.

If you went with a FORD gasser because you found what you believed to be a really good deal and were willing to eat the fuel costs, then no one would fault it. All three makers have good 1T with gasser combos.

The order of preference on diesel is about numbers pure and simple: longevity, reliability and low op cost.

1] Dodge CTD
2] GM Maxipad
3] (There is no third place choice)

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Ok Rednax, just making sure I got your blood pressure up a bit. This one is probably better...

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Yeah, I just did an Autotrader search 300-miles around 38127 and you all is short of nice trucks. Most of 'em never got out of Texas it looks like. Got some family in the Lone Star you can bunk with?


I've been looking at this one just outside Dallas for a month or more:

Randall Noe, Rockwall, TX 2004.0 555 CTD

I'd like another one. Maybe my son might want it. Hmmmm . . . .

G'town to Rockwall is under one day drive.

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[QUOTE=Eaglemate;1134583]Ok Rednax, just making sure I got your blood pressure up a bit. This one is probably better...

I haven't priced the 2nd Gen trucks. But DRW rides hard. 2002 has disc brakes, but still with VP-44 fuel pump weakness. There's good and bad. A DRW can be converted to SRW. A spare VP-44 can be carried aboard. For that price (if it is competitive) it's okay to go from this distance. I would not want automatic, though.

2003-2004 really is the sweet spot. 2WD plus the 6-manual (NV-5600).
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Rednax, that sure is a beauty. You are right, we don't have any good looking trucks 'round here. I will admit the manual might be a buzz-buster. It's not that I am lazy. Anyone willing to fly a beech baron cross-country with no autopilot just isn't lazy. But shoee, 3000 miles over the summer shifting all day long just ....well, sure would trade the gas for the comfort.
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No question, Buy a Chevy with the duramax and allison tranny. Bullet proof!!!!!
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