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Old 11-02-2016, 12:31 PM   #21
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I have a 09 Toyota 4dr 4x4 Tundra with the tow package. I pull my 1994 limited 30 ft classic with the load leveler hitch. It does just fine, I am not considered a racer up hill.
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Old 11-02-2016, 01:09 PM   #22
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F 250 or 2500HD vs. an F 150 or 1500: Its not just about power and weight. Any 3/4 ton truck will generally have a heavier duty transmission, bigger brakes, bigger differential and axles, more cooling and a higher output alternator. Sure a 1/2 ton will tow a lot of trailers but all the components on the truck will be really stressed. The extra strain on the truck will eventually take its toll.
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Old 11-02-2016, 01:33 PM   #23
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We have been pulling our 25' Serenity with a F150 for the past year. I feel we are 'okay' with our setup at the moment. We owned the truck prior to our foray into the RV lifestyle. When it is time to trade in the Ford, I will be going with more truck.
The single reason for this is, 95% of the time the set up is perfect. We love the ride and handling of the F150, but, on 2 occasions the truck was barely able to handle the challenges presented.
Last year, while driving Hwy 89 through the Dixie Forest in Utah, we were suddenly caught in an unexpected snow storm. The truck came very close to overheating due to the slow driving conditions during the accent. Then almost hit a buck crossing the road, then it began to get towards dusk...it really wasn't a good day!
Simular overheating issue came into place on Vancouver Island this year.
If you aren't planning on doing any mountain pass traveling, I would consider the F150.
We will be upgrading to more truck before our next big adventure though.
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Old 11-02-2016, 01:52 PM   #24
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Classic-30 tow vehicle F150 vs F250?

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Old 11-02-2016, 02:00 PM   #25
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we towed our 25' Classic with the F150 ecoboost, and it did great, with only caveats of installing E rated tires and we were close to the rear axle rating when loaded. We have since purchased a 30' Classic, and F250 PowerStroke and it also does an excellent job. You can order the heavy duty payload pkg on the F150, although it does not allow a couple of options that we wanted. My only issue with our F250 is the very small fuel capacity, 26 Gal, which has caused some unwanted stress a couple of times, and the "exhaust cleaning" at the most inappropriate times. I think Ford has fixed the fuel capacity on the 17's. I use my truck for more than pulling, so the F150 really was more appealing, and like I stated, ordered for the payload and the EcoBoost motor, it is a great truck.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:16 PM   #26
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Been towing an Airstream for 13 years with an F250 (2017 now) and would not go any less. To me, it is not the capability of pulling the trailer but stopping the entire rig.

Before towing the AS I towed a 10,000 lb trailer with no assisted braking. The thought of managing that load with a smaller rig would not be pleasant for me. It was manageable with the super duty. Could be the difference between making it to your destination or being on the side of the road.

For me I did not consider parking garages and tighter parking to be a significant factor but stopping and otherwise handling any dicey or emergency situation to be a great pro.
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Old 11-02-2016, 02:31 PM   #27
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I towed my 19 and 25 with a Tundra. Then I bought a Classic 30' and towed it home from Florida with the Tundra. That trip convinced me that a 2500 was the right truck. It has the brakes, the suspension as well as the power to tow the Classic 30'.

I went with the gasoline engine but I know better than to present that decision tree on this forum.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:07 PM   #28
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I've heard many complaints from those who regretted buying less truck than they needed. I can't recall hearing a complaint from anyone who bought more truck than they needed. If the price between the F150 and F250 is close at all, more truck is better especially with the load you're considering.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:36 PM   #29
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I have a 2016 30 foot Classic. I use a Ford F-350 diesel with an 8 foot bed. The long wheel base is the way to go.
I would never ever consider towing that heavy of a trailer with a F-150.
The engine brake on the diesel for down hill grades will save you grief.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:44 PM   #30
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The F-150 is a very nice pickup but it does not have the same sized brakes or towing capacity as the F-350. Frame is much lighter. That big trailer would be pushing you on the down grades. The engine on the 150 does not have an exhaust brake. 150 is great for the smaller trailers like the Bambi but if you are pulling grades over the Sierra Nevada that truck would struggle with a big classic. Every piece of equipment on the 150 would be maxed out and would fail sooner than it should due to the stresses involved.
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Old 11-02-2016, 03:59 PM   #31
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I've heard many complaints from those who regretted buying less truck than they needed. I can't recall hearing a complaint from anyone who bought more truck than they needed. ...
Well, it is likely people don't like to complain about daily driving or parking their big truck.

Of course a 250 can pull more than a 150. And a 350 even more. I imagine the F650 could pull even more. But the F150 can be configured to tow over 10,000 pounds and have over 1600 pounds of payload. That is plenty to tow a 30' Airstream. If some folks feel more "comfortable" with a bigger truck, that is fantastic. But there is no need to cast doubt on the capabilities of a properly configured F150. It is one tough truck.

I had a 2014 Raptor. The payload was 1200 pounds because of the soft suspension. I would not have towed a 30 Classic with my Raptor. But there are many other configurations with higher towing and payload capacities. And they are perfectly safe, and they won't fail prematurely if you stay within the specified weight ranges.

And no, I don't work for Ford.
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:28 PM   #32
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I originally towed my Classic with an F150 and I was not at all comfortable. I bought the F250 and have never looked back. Simply put, I do not believe the F150 is adequate nor do I believe it is safe. JMO.
Same with us. We have been towing our 30' International with a F-150 Ecoboost for 3 years. It gets the job done but every trip, especially out west was a job driving it. Can't relax ever and to get good performance in the mountains you have use 89 or better fuel. Many times it was more expensive than the diesel. So we just got our 2017 F-250 diesel, what a difference !
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Old 11-02-2016, 04:59 PM   #33
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Tow Vehicle, when in doubt, go big

We tow our Classic 30' with a Ram 2500HD with the big Cumins diesel. We always have plenty of power, the engine breaking is a huge plus, and the mileage is excellent. With the big Airstream I definitely recommend the F250. I think you would regret buying the 150.
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Old 11-02-2016, 05:11 PM   #34
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If you use a cap and carry a lot of tools and/or "toys," I would opt for the 3/4 ton TV. We tow our FC 30' with an F250 and it works very well. We have a Leer cap and carry bikes and two kayaks.
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Old 11-02-2016, 06:02 PM   #35
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To me, a Classic is just an expensive and overweight tin can loaded with a bunch of fancy "foo-ferahh".
The spec called for 10,000 lbs gross wt. That's a lot, for a living space with fancy woodwork.
My comfortable 30' FC, spec calls the gross wt. at 8800 lbs.
My F-150, 3.5l Eco-Boost, 3.55 R.E. with tow package is rated for 12,200 lbs., well above either of those trailers.
I generally tow my FC. at around 8,000 lbs.+/- a bit, and the Ford handles it very well.
This is with full or almost full fresh water, and loaded for two seniors. No dogs. (damn it.)
I cruise on the our 400 series highways, (Your 'Interstates) at about 100-110 KPH, 62.5-65 MPH) and on the secondary roads, about 90 KPH, (55 mph).
When not towing, my Ford can be as 'frisky' as I want it to be, and considering the size of the vehicle is pretty decent on gas 'milage'.
Considering the extra price of the F-250 and 'stuff', I think that it would be 'overkill' although I'll bet that 'others' would disagree with me.
that's my 'take' anyway.

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Old 11-02-2016, 08:28 PM   #36
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If you are going to wait on a Classic build, why not just go whole hog and compliment your trailer with this pickup available next year? It will likely use the same perceived value pricing equation.
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Since the OP is talking about a 30' Classic, let's compare apples to apples. A 25' Classic has a very different weight profile from a 30. I might consider a 150 for a 25' trailer. Those of us who have the newer Classics (say '15 and onward), seem to feel that the 250/2500 works for us. My experience after towing just under 48,000 with a Ram 2500 w/Cummins is that the heavier duty truck works extremely well. If you read enough of the posts on AF on this issue (and there are many, many of them), you will get a wide variance. What you will NOT get is unanimity. My dealer didn't offer to do the bags of cement to simulate the amount of weight I'd be hauling, but if he had, I am 100% sure I would NOT have gone for the 150/1500.
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...not sure the OP cared what our opinions are on which AS models are worth the price, but thanks for sharing anyway!

To the OP question, go for the 3/4 ton if you're doubting it. That doubt ain't going away. If you're not prone to doubt (lucky you), get a 1/2 ton, stay out of the Roockies for a year and see how it does. You can go heavier if you need to and are willing to spend a bit more money. If you've only got one shot, reduce the chance of a mistake any way you can.

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Old 11-03-2016, 05:55 AM   #39
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Before towing the AS I towed a 10,000 lb trailer with no assisted braking. The thought of managing that load with a smaller rig would not be pleasant for me. It was manageable with the super duty. Could be the difference between making it to your destination or being on the side of the road.

For me I did not consider parking garages and tighter parking to be a significant factor but stopping and otherwise handling any dicey or emergency situation to be a great pro.
My F-350 fits in the same space as an F-150 (I fold the mirrors once parked). It's quite a bit taller but not really wider. One bonus is that tailgaters don't really matter to me anymore...
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We had a 1/2 ton when we bought our Classic 30. Went o a couple of trips with it and I felt it would do the job but just felt marginal to me for the size of trailer so we traded it in on a 3/4 ton. A much better experience and feels like a good match. Would so teh same again for sure.

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