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Adventure.AS · 10-30-2018, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Msherw

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Exposed chains could be a problem albeit I have never heard anyone trying to drag an RV by the chains without having a hitch (even a locked one) to at least balance the tow load. It would be more than a difficult task. ... Chain locking is not high on my list of concerns. Insurance is my lender of last resort.

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Here is a short video from Australia showing how easy it is to steal a trailer using just chain - even with a coupler lock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9tb...&index=50&t=0s

Msherw · 10-31-2018, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Too tall

Mike we are on the same page, yours are good words.

I did buy the P.I. lock. The only thing about this piece which has me scratching my head is the lock assembly itself (cylinder, pins etc). This appears to be a non-hardened set without armoring. If this amateur observation is correct I'm lost why such a otherwise awesome hitch lock would lack a better lock set.

I want to be wrong on this.

The thing that Proven supplies with their puck lock is a replaceable cylinder so you can change it if your key is compromised. It is 6 pin tumbler and that makes it much harder to pick. The cylinder is pointed downward making the thief lay on the ground and pick looking up. All these points assist in slowing a would be thief down in acquiring our AS but it is no guarantee. Make them move on to another target. That’s my goal.

Banks get robbed in spite of locks and safes. Nothing will keep a determined thief from completing an egregious act. I just want to assure they change location.

Too tall · 10-31-2018, 06:41 AM

Mike, got it and agreed. My point is that I'm questioning a brute force attack on the cylinder vs lockpicking.

Msherw · 10-31-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Too tall

Mike, got it and agreed. My point is that I'm questioning a brute force attack on the cylinder vs lockpicking.

Neither the puck nor the lock is susceptible to a pry bar nor a drilling attack but...

I suppose anything is possible. I trust mine but I still have theft insurance. LOL.

Martee · 11-01-2018, 11:27 AM

The Proven Industry tumbler lock set is fully protected from sledge hammer and pry bars, but being aircraft grade aluminum, can be drilled out with a high performance drill. You can purchase the case hardened stainless steel tumbler lock version which resists such drilling. The stainless steel version is an additional cost item.

GMFL · 11-01-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Martee

GMFL...Very well done. A right nice piece of steel fabrication and power coating. Have you considered marketing?

Thanks, no proven industries mass produced them. I just wanted something made a little better than mass producing can provide and also made is out of better steel. I do not like the cheap aluminum puck they use so I chose to go with a high security Mul-T-Lock puck. I can build two more of these from the steel I have left but I have no idea what it would cost.....

Too tall · 11-03-2018, 05:45 AM

Taking one for the team.
PI could offer a no puck option or offer their SS version as the default?
Regardless, my choice to overspend and stop thinking about the lock.

GMFL · 11-03-2018, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Too tall

Taking one for the team.
PI could offer a no puck option or offer their SS version as the default?
Regardless, my choice to overspend and stop thinking about the lock.

Two safety chain hooks and a Multlock T100........ you Sir have made a wise and noble choice.

Mollysdad · 11-03-2018, 08:10 AM

Okay, so you bought the most expensive coupler lock (I did too) and you removed your safety chains. A determined thief brings a tow truck and uses his own nylon straps to lift the A-frame and tow it away.
Yes, remove all four tires!! Leave it on jack stands.
Sorry, but that level of worry would take all the joy out of owning the trailer, I'd stay home with "ol Betsy" in my lap.

GMFL · 11-03-2018, 09:08 AM

I’m just trying to keep my unit from being an easy target. If a thief has to bring his on stuff the steal my unit I think that is better than me providing it for him to use. Covering the coupler and removing the chains does not make the unit impossible to steal but it does not make it easier. This lock set up takes less than a minute to install and removing the chains less than that.
I’m not worried about theft of my unit. I have insurance. I just am trying to prevent the hassle of buying a new unit and going through all the work and trouble it takes to bring one up to my standards.

FloydCoVa · 11-03-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GMFL

I’m just trying to keep my unit from being an easy target. If a thief has to bring his on stuff the steal my unit I think that is better than me providing it for him to use. Covering the coupler and removing the chains does not make the unit impossible to steal but it does not make it easier. This lock set up takes less than a minute to install and removing the chains less than that.
I’m not worried about theft of my unit. I have insurance. I just am trying to prevent the hassle of buying a new unit and going through all the work and trouble it takes to bring one up to my standards.

+1 agree

InterBlog · 11-18-2018, 06:08 AM

Example of how a determined and sophisticated thief can defeat any chain. Given the size of it, the chains holding this vessel were probably on par with Pewag. But as noted in numerous YouTube videos, the cordless mini-grinder is the one device that deserves to be feared in this context.

Gutsy vandals. Grinders make a LOT of noise. These guys knew what they were doing and decided to play a high-stakes game.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...mbro-1.4910302

SteveSueMac · 11-18-2018, 06:26 AM

Good info InterBlog - but I wouldn’t use the word “gutsy” for the vandals. God I hate this kind of thing. What gives someone a thrill over doing something so destructive and stupid? [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]

InterBlog · 11-18-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveSueMac

... What gives someone a thrill over doing something so destructive and stupid? [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]

In that case, it's cultural. I'm originally from Nova Scotia, so I know all about it. There's a tiny but severely destructive segment of the population that wreaks havoc on society. Theft, arson, sabotage, you name it - they do it.

One of the primary reasons why we got an Airstream Interstate is that I knew I didn't want to build a fixed cottage the land I own there. It would be at high risk of getting broken into, or burned down, or both. With what we got instead of a cottage, we just drive out of harm's reach.

FilmGuy · 03-03-2023, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Martee

Kscheri....that recommendation is a great idea. Perhaps a kill switch, or an on/off switch for the 12 volt electric jack could be wired and placed inside the locked forward storage compartment nearest the jack. This would disable the electric jack from use during any theft attempts.

I have a fuse in the power feed to the jack. I take that out when we park the trailer. It's not very high-tech, but the chances are not good that a thief will be carrying a spare fuse.