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Old 03-24-2016, 03:47 PM   #1
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Can you trust Tongue weights provided by Airstream?

I own a 25 FB FC and according to Airstream the tongue weight is 837 LB. on an empty unit. I purchase a Sherline Tongue Scale rated up to 2000 LBS. to check how loading it would effect the tongue weight. First thing I did was weight the unit empty and the scale told me it was 1200 LBS. Sales people at the AS dealerships don't seem interested in talking about or knowledgeable on this subject.

The scale seems like a quality item with great reviews at Etrailer.com.

Also note: I decided to return the scale as I believed it was defective and got all kinds of flack from Etrailer.com when I asked them to live up to there return policy. The no questions asked return policy turned into a "Ok but We'll test it when we get it back and if we decide it works then you are out of luck"
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Love some feedback on posted tongue weights by Airstream.
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Old 03-24-2016, 03:53 PM   #2
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Based on what forum members who own 25's have posted before, I bet the scale is fine and the tongue weight is indeed 1200#.
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Old 03-24-2016, 03:55 PM   #3
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^ ditto
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Old 03-24-2016, 03:59 PM   #4
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Don't return it it is correct.

Airstream does not include gas bottles, gas bottle cover. hitch equipment added to the tongue, and electric tongue jack. It is a game they play just not sure who they are playing with.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:15 PM   #5
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I have the same scale and a Classic 25fb. I'm getting close to 1200lb.

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Old 03-24-2016, 04:42 PM   #6
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Tongue weight in the specs is tongue weight empty with no installed accessories or options - add those accessories, options, propane, batteries, water and gear - then it climbs dramatically.

There is a simple system to determine your actual tongue weight using a bathroom scale and a bit of lumber - you should be able to find out elsewhere on this forum how to do this is or maybe by googling it - this will tell you whether your purchased scale is accurate - my guess is that it is working just fine.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:57 PM   #7
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:22 PM   #8
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Can you trust Tongue weights provided by Airstream?

In other words, yeah, it seems you can't trust Airstream's tongue weight claims - especially if you're using that number to shop for a TV with an appropriate load capacity rating.
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:33 PM   #9
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The late model Airstream published weights are with full propane bottles and cover but no optional equipment. You must weigh it dead level or it will be off. If you want to know how much weight is on the coupler ball, you must weigh it at the coupler, not at the jack where it will indicate a heavier weight. If you want to know how much weight the truck receiver is carrying, you must weigh it at the end of the stinger. A forum member with a ProPride hitch weighed his tongue at the jack and again at the end of his ProPride hitch stinger, 200 lbs lighter at the truck receiver.

Then weight distribution comes into play, some of the weight will be distributed to the truck's front axles. The only way to know how much load your Airstream adds to the truck is to weigh the truck without the trailer, and again with the trailer hitched up and weight distribution applied.

And there are variables. When we travel we put 70 lbs of bicycles on the Airstreamer rear end. We have recliner chairs which we slide back for travel. We carry our heavy gear over or just behind the Airstream axles, almost nothing in front. We have a rear bed design, that's where most of our storage is. That all lightens the tongue weight.

Our Maximum tailer load is 7300 lbs meaning we need at least 10% of that on the tongue so we want no less than 730 lbs on the tongue. Our Airstream Owners manual warns the tongue weight must never exceed 1000 lbs. So there's our parameters.

Much ado about not-so-much. This is not a perfect science, common sense and experience will prevail for those who have it.
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Old 03-24-2016, 05:46 PM   #10
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Wanting 730# tongue weight is one thing. Having it is totally a different thing (needs verification). Almost all numbers point to well over 1000# tongue weight. BTW tongue weight is constant (weight distribution does not change it). What weight distribution hitch does is change tongue weights affect on axle weights.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:53 PM   #11
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Wanting 730# tongue weight is one thing. Having it is totally a different thing (needs verification). Almost all numbers point to well over 1000# tongue weight. BTW tongue weight is constant (weight distribution does not change it). What weight distribution hitch does is change tongue weights affect on axle weights.
I don't have a tongue weight problem, but always wondered, can moving your heavy items to the rear of the rig produce an appreciable change in tongue weight?
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I have the 1000 pound scale and a 2016 16' Sport. My tongue weight (with LP and a little bit of stuff inside) measured 400# (AS says with LP and nothing else it is 350#). I made a mistake when I first did the measurement. I had the trailer all hooked up and leveled nose down a little bit. With the scale under the jack on a level block, I jacked the hitch up and off the ball so the weight was into the scale through the jack (but the trailer was now just level). The sherline website and booklet list this as an acceptable method. However, the scale weighed in at almost 900#. I had not removed the Blue OX chains of the weight distribution system and now I was increasing the tension the chains and bar to push down of the scales. After I disconnected the chains and checked the level it weighed in at 400#. So in the end, I think AS and all SOB all listed tongue weight lite. The Problem for me is I am getting a 23D and it has a higher tongue weight than the 23FB. 720# for the 23D and 463# for the 23FB. The unit base weight for the 23D is 4761# and gross is 6000# So the tongue weight to gross weight ration is high compared to most AS.
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I had my 28' international checked before I bought it. Airstream info said 950 lbs. The actual was 950 as claimed, with batteries and full LP. No hitch.
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:46 AM   #14
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All trailers are weighed once they come off the line and those weights are printed out on the stickers that are attached. They will vary based on options and model decor but are weighed on computer scales.
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