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Old 04-24-2019, 05:55 AM   #43
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One item not mentioned thus far is the structure of the Airstream. Zep's picture appears to be one of his older trailers. The frame rails are both of heavier gauge and larger dimensions (stiffer) than newer airstreams. The difference in my 1970 vs the 1997 are huge! ... These two details make the older Airstreams much more accommodating to modifications such as this as opposed to the newer (weaker) trailer frames.
Thanks for mentioning this. I would never have guessed. With all the frame separation issues in the longer 70s Airstreams, I would have thought the new frames would be stronger. I was getting ready to do this same mod on my wife's 2018 Flying Cloud--I guess I better go get the bumper off and take a closer look. Durn it.

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Ptek - what are you towing with these days? Do you still have the Lexus or have you changed to a different TV.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:48 AM   #45
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Hi GOUSC. Same Lexus Land Cruiser at 106k miles now. With hitch and bike rack on the rear of the AS, carrying a tandem bike and childs bike. No stability or structure issues to speak of.

Funny, cause there's been posts elsewhere poking fun at my "old" '09 Lexus. Yet I regularly have coworkers or friends asking if its new, even in 2019. I could upgrade if I desired to, but it still looks and drives as fresh as it did off the factory floor and I continue to be satisfied with its excellent performance.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:20 PM   #46
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Check out my post on Fiamma bike rack failure - has this happened to you. I posted a Fiamma mod for an e-bike.
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:05 AM   #47
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I'm not concerned too much about the weight.

Hi, my trailer has rear bumper storage; Mine only holds sewer hoses, but who knows what other people put in there? My trailer also has a rear storage compartment which is under my bed. I have some tools, odds and ends, and two folding chairs in there. In my opinion, it's not so much the weight, but the hammering from bikes bouncing on the hitch trying to separate the frame from the body.

Now the Fiamma bike rack, and one built by a forum member named Howie, have brackets mounted to the body below the rear window. This helps to stop bouncing and connects the body to the frame.
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I have never read of rear separation on any trailer built in the 2000s. Anyone else have?
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Hi GOUSC. Same Lexus Land Cruiser at 106k miles now. With hitch and bike rack on the rear of the AS, carrying a tandem bike and childs bike. No stability or structure issues to speak of.

Funny, cause there's been posts elsewhere poking fun at my "old" '09 Lexus. Yet I regularly have coworkers or friends asking if its new, even in 2019. I could upgrade if I desired to, but it still looks and drives as fresh as it did off the factory floor and I continue to be satisfied with its excellent performance.
No one's poking fun at your Lexus...just wondering when your going to get a newer PU so you can carry the generator, fuel, firewood, bbq grill, kayaks, camp table, smoker, extra tent, and the kitchen sink! (just kidding, Ptek)
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Nothing wrong with keeping a perfectly functional car! Many years ago I finally let go of one of my old Saabs at 260k miles, and the Saab prior to that at 197k. But you know, its just all a big saab story...
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One item not mentioned thus far is the structure of the Airstream. Zep's picture appears to be one of his older trailers. The frame rails are both of heavier gauge and larger dimensions (stiffer) than newer airstreams. The difference in my 1970 vs the 1997 are huge! Also the 1970 has a gusset plate in the front and rear reinforcing the frame/body connection. These two details make the older Airstreams much more accommodating to modifications such as this as opposed to the newer (weaker) trailer frames.
Are you sure about this?

The new trailers are larger (wider), heavier, and have less reported occurrences of frame separation (perhaps because they're newer?).

That would make me highly suspect that AS would spec a smaller and weaker frame rail?

I'd be happy to measure the size of the rails on my '07 27FB if someone wants to compare measurements.
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Hi GOUSC. Same Lexus Land Cruiser at 106k miles now. With hitch and bike rack on the rear of the AS, carrying a tandem bike and childs bike. No stability or structure issues to speak of.

Funny, cause there's been posts elsewhere poking fun at my "old" '09 Lexus. Yet I regularly have coworkers or friends asking if its new, even in 2019. I could upgrade if I desired to, but it still looks and drives as fresh as it did off the factory floor and I continue to be satisfied with its excellent performance.
The only reason I asked was that in the pic of your AS with a large carry container on the back the TV in the pic looked more like a truck with a cab on it than a Lexus. I always thought your Lexus TV was a cool idea and was wondering if you changed. It's probably just the angle of the pic.

When we were in Santa Fe we met a woman solo AS owner that towed her Bambi with a Porsche. It was also a great set up.
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Ah. That pic was in jest. It's just a rig I found on the interwebs and I can't take credit for its....awesomeness?
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I've been in the belly so to speak of both of my trailers. The 1970's main frame rails are both larger dimensionally, and appear thicker in gauge than on my 1997. That is where my comments come from. These would be the same rails that Zep's hitch fits into.

I believe 1996 was the first year for the wide body, so mine would be only a year into that design run. Changes may well have been made since.
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