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Old 10-16-2017, 06:35 PM   #29
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So have we made it through that yet again? Can we all go back to sleep for another three days when the exact question is asked and all the same emotion froths to the surface?

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Old 10-16-2017, 06:39 PM   #30
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It shouldn’t really be controversial if “best” is the standard.

Economy can apply to any subject though.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:24 PM   #31
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I think there are a lot of variables in determining which is the best hitch. I have a small horse operation and have been towing gooseneck horse trailers overloaded equipment trailers and our boat. Until I bought the Airstream I had never used any kind of WD/AS hitch . So based on what I read here and seeing some of the YouTube videos of trailers losing control I thought it be prudent to get a hitch. So when the driver showed up after pulling my FC from the west coast using a Blue Ox it went to the top of those list. I asked the drivers opinion and he asked what I was going to use for a TV . He said based on my f250 the Blue ox would be fine. Tony said he had setups for most brands because he didn’t always know what he would have to hitch up to. He liked the Blue ox because it was fairly quick and easy to set up. This guy was using a big Chevy dually and could have run with just a ball . Since he does this for a living I took his recommendation. I think with a smaller TV a more robust hitch maybe needed ,that and how heavy you load everything up. I know when I went to cut hay I was loaded well maybe overloaded and towing was a different animal. So that balance between TV and TT maybe more of a deciding factor then cost.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:47 PM   #32
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Personal view:
Best - is a situational concept. What is "best" for me under my current conditions. This incorporates cost.

Someone noted "what is the best - if price is no object" takes cost out of the discussion but leaves many other factors in place: what are you towing, what are you towing with, where are you towing, yada, yada, yada.

When I was looking my question was "what is the safest, most stable". I built my list and applied a ranking, then made my decision...
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:52 PM   #33
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I think there are a lot of variables in determining which is the best hitch. I have a small horse operation and have been towing gooseneck horse trailers overloaded equipment trailers and our boat. Until I bought the Airstream I had never used any kind of WD/AS hitch . So based on what I read here and seeing some of the YouTube videos of trailers losing control I thought it be prudent to get a hitch. So when the driver showed up after pulling my FC from the west coast using a Blue Ox it went to the top of those list. I asked the drivers opinion and he asked what I was going to use for a TV . He said based on my f250 the Blue ox would be fine. Tony said he had setups for most brands because he didn’t always know what he would have to hitch up to. He liked the Blue ox because it was fairly quick and easy to set up. This guy was using a big Chevy dually and could have run with just a ball . Since he does this for a living I took his recommendation. I think with a smaller TV a more robust hitch maybe needed ,that and how heavy you load everything up. I know when I went to cut hay I was loaded well maybe overloaded and towing was a different animal. So that balance between TV and TT maybe more of a deciding factor then cost.


My experience with trucks and trailers of all sizes spans over three decades. I have ordered to my specs lots of “smaller” trailers built to be pulled by one tons outfitted with fifth wheels. I chose fifth wheel setups for my fleets because they make for very stable smaller vehicle platforms. These vehicles are mostly 26,000 pound and under rigs with empty weights of about 15,000 lbs.

I have hundreds of thousands of miles experience towing trailers.

The short story is, my hitch on my trailer makes as stable a unit as any 5th wheel I have ever driven. In my view, an excellent product deserves fair recognition and representation.
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:06 PM   #34
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I have about 2200 miles since April towing a 2005 Safari 25 with a F150, Ecoboost, using a Blue Ox Sway Pro w/1000 lb bars. Got it on Amazon for under $550 and set it up myself. Nothing to compare it with, but I've been very happy. Zero sway and good WD. 18 wheelers passing will push me perceptibly to the right, but it's barely noticeable.
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:46 AM   #35
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Airhead59-I am not picking on you but this is exactly my point.What other hitch systems have you used? How does it compare to the other hitches you have used on your truck and your trailer? What data did you use to determine that the system you use is the best possible set up? How good is good enough?
I understand brand loyalty, my mom used the same butter for decades because that is what she knew. It had always worked well for her and all her recipes turned out good enough and we all are still alive. Then she tired the butter I used and darn, she liked it better, her recipes turned out better, everyone noticed and we all eat better etc., The butter I use happens to be more expensive but we all noticed the improvement, So just because you have used something for 40 years and drove millions of miles doesn’t necessarily mean it is the best.
People spends months, even years figuring out which Airstream will be best suited from them and then just throw on any old hitch because it’s less expensive and I just don’t get it.
There are two brands of hitches that are designed to eliminate sway not just reduce it both are about the same price so you have a choice between ProPride or Hensley. If cost of these systems are not in the budget then seems logical that the budget needs to be addressed and modified ( less expensive truck or less expensive trailer).
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:01 AM   #36
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The only time I EVER feel any vehicle passing me is in a strong cross wind, and then barely at all. #StabilityRules
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:36 AM   #37
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I have never understood why someone would want to use the least expensive device to mate a $40,000(or higher) travel trailer to a $40,000(or higher ) vehicle. So you have at least $80,000 investment and yet you hesitatant to spend the money on the most important link. Why?
With that logic, your tow vehicle must be a Maybach.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:40 AM   #38
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It shouldn’t really be controversial if “best” is the standard.

Economy can apply to any subject though.
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Except that cost *always* comes into any rational decision. The "best" is always "best in my case". Money in the bank gets into that real quickly .... It's no different than shopping for a home. "We bought the best house" is always followed up by an unstated "(that we could afford)".

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Old 10-17-2017, 09:07 AM   #39
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I try to stay out of these discussions, but decided to give my experience.

I've used two Blue Ox Swaypros, one with 1000# bars on my Airstream FC25FB and one with 1500# bars on my Son-in-laws 26' enclosed car hauler. After we dialed them in, both are working perfectly with never a concern about safety at interstate highway speeds. This year I've put 13,000 miles on my Airstream and my Son-in-law is over 20,000 miles on the car hauler. We both travel all over the country. I've towed my Airstream through Rocky Mountain National Park at over 12,000 feet, throughout the mountain west and across the windswept plains. I driven across Montana and Texas at the interstate speed limits without a bobble. I've towed in aftermath winds of hurricanes and winds in the plains that you could lean into. I cannot find fault with my Blue Ox.

Its not a money thing. If I felt my family's safety was compromised in any way I'd spend way more than the cost of a Propride to correct the situation. My wife's greatest fear is trailer sway. We nearly lost a heavy 23' boat with surge brakes going down a steep grade over 20 years ago on the ball. Eight tires squealing, boat and truck nearly rolling over, going ditch-to-ditch on a four lane highway with two additional lanes of paved shoulder (now that's trailer sway). To this day, if my wife even sees a trailer wiggle on any vehicle around us she starts hyperventilating and tensing up. When we go down that steep grade towing anything, we both tense up and start hyperventilating (again, that's trailer sway). Knowing that my wife is this fearful of sway, do you think I'd not spend a few thousand dollars if we ever felt any sway in our $160,000 rig?

I bought the simple Blue Ox thinking that if I wasn't satisfied I'd go buy a Propride. Well, I'm still running the Blue Ox. Maybe someday I'll decide to go buy a Propride as others make them sound really great. But my simple little Blue Ox is doing the job, do I really need to add the complexity of Propride?

That was a rhetorical question and I don't need the fear-mongering replies saying that my time has not yet come. My time has come as described above and in several other instances over my long trailer-towing career. The safest trailer I've ever towed is my Airstream with my Blue Ox hitch.
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Old 10-17-2017, 09:18 AM   #40
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Not sure what make/name of my 1972 hitch system is, still have it. It worked great pulling my 1972 33' AS. It has load distribution bars and slide rack for sway. Fast forward to 2017 we were in search of a "new" set up to pull our new AS. We ended up w/a Blue Ox Sway Pro Weight Distribution Hitch system. Have not used a Hensley/ProPride system, so I can not comment on. However did go and look and read on line at their systems after reading this thread. All that I can say is Our Blue Ox system works great and I have no complaints w/sway or weight distribution.

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Old 10-17-2017, 05:07 PM   #41
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I have a blue ox with 1000# bars pulling a 2013 25fb flying cloud tongue lbs run 850# or so ,my TV is a f250 4x4 diesel 1999 vintage I have had for a long time but still in good shape. No problems with sway I normally pull around 65 mph but will hit 75 when passing . I go through the mountains here in NC to north Ga to camp with the kids an no issues . I have been happy with the Blue ox system. I would like to weight the truck and trailer some day but it has been preforming fine so far.
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If you mean the Appalachian ,no , I have done a few day hikes on it but that was in college around 73-75
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