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Old 12-14-2014, 06:56 PM   #15
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I've pulled in and out of our driveway hundreds of times and it's just as steep (with WD still installed). From the pictures, it doesn't look like it will be a problem at all.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:34 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the ideas. I thought it was not going to be a problem, when I first saw pictures of the driveways. However when I actually saw it in person last week, I discovered that pictures don't do it justice. It's steeper than it appears in photos.

The tractor or tug idea might be an option.

Concerning, the wet weather, I lived in western Washington the first fifty years of my life so I know what I'm getting into. The pictures were taken last Tuesday, while the storms were just starting to get wound up.

I wish I had taken my laser level with me so I could measure the actual slope. I'll do that the next time I go out there. The hitch bars on our ProPride do not detach conveniently, but I think newer models may be different.

I have a lot of research to do. Keep the ideas coming.

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Old 12-14-2014, 07:37 PM   #17
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Front hitch has my vote. I don't have a slope but have a difficult approach into back yard. The front hitch, aside from the obvious visual advantage, allows very sharp turns without the problem of the TV swinging off the rumb line. It's a huge advantage.

Your driveway looks tight and hard to say for certain if it will work, but a front hitch will allow you to approach the transition at a flat angle and then swing hard and recover without jackknifing.

Another potential advantage (and maybe disadvantage) is that he front suspension is softer than the rear. My 4wd 1/2 ton Silverado drops hard under the weight of the tongue (23D). This would help you . . . Up to a point. 4wd on soft ground allows me to push it in easily, but sharp turns would be harder on asphalt with axles locked.

All this is speculation for your particular situation, but front receivers are not too expensive so might be something to consider.

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Old 12-14-2014, 07:55 PM   #18
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Front hitch has my vote. I don't have a slope but have a difficult approach into back yard. The front hitch, aside from the obvious visual advantage, allows very sharp turns without the problem of the TV swinging off the rumb line. It's a huge advantage.

Your driveway looks tight and hard to say for certain if it will work, but a front hitch will allow you to approach the transition at a flat angle and then swing hard and recover without jackknifing.

Another potential advantage (and maybe disadvantage) is that he front suspension is softer than the rear. My 4wd 1/2 ton Silverado drops hard under the weight of the tongue (23D). This would help you . . . Up to a point. 4wd on soft ground allows me to push it in easily, but sharp turns would be harder on asphalt with axles locked.



All this is speculation for your particular situation, but front receivers are not too expensive so might be something to consider.

Steve
I agree that all of this is speculation until I get all the facts straight, but it's good to have all of these options mentioned. I wonder what my approximately 1000 lb tongue weight would do the truck's front end. It's a 3/4 ton dodge diesel 4X4.

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Old 12-14-2014, 08:09 PM   #19
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get a parkit360 drive straight in un hitch and use the Parkit360 to turn it around.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:58 PM   #20
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Ken,

For what it's worth, 23D spec is 720 on the hitch. 1000 on 3/4 ton sounds heavy, but not crazy. The hill begs for 4wd low but the sharp turns on asphalt are a concern.

I fretted on our house over the whole "will it work" issue. Ultimately passed on a 25 and went with a 23 over the issue. As you are doing, I researched and considered and then did my best. Turns out for my situation, with the front hitch, a 25 would have worked. Pretty easily.

Vertical grade transitions are probably less forgiving. Think about clearance of tongue jack and mounted tongue hardware for hitch bars. In my case, hitch hardware drags before anything else.

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Old 12-14-2014, 09:13 PM   #21
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I'd try it before I did anything. My driveway is as steep if not more. With very limited space at top, no turn around. Granted mine is FC 23D. But, I have no problem with clearance etc.
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Old 12-15-2014, 12:43 PM   #22
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The front hitches I have researched have a tongue weight limit of either 350 or 500 lbs. This is more about the capacity of the front end suspension of the truck than the hitch itself. I asked a mechanic at a suspension shop whether he would try it anyway when the tongue weight of considerably more and he said "yes". Front hitches bolt to the front end of the two rails that characterize a truck frame. This can handle less weight I would guess than the hitch receivers at the rear. Those are usually welded and bolted (or welded and not bolted) to the back of the frame rails. But you have to be able to remove the front hitch in many cases if you want to change oil and filter, so the front hitch can't be welded. Welds are supposed to be stronger than bolts.

If you are moving the trailer on the level, I suspect there is a lot less strain on the hitch and truck than pushing it up a hill. It is hard to see just how steep the hill is or whether you have enough room at the parking area to move things around or turn the truck around to the front hitch.

There are Curt front hitches on Amazon for about $125-150. They cost somewhat more from a suspension shop in GJ, but Amazon kept sending me the wrong one for our FJ Cruiser so I ended up ordering it from there for a plow. I haven't picked it up yet, but I think it may be a challenge to get the bolts in. The trick may be once it is installed, when removing it, to leave the bolts and remove the hitch, then attach the nuts to the bolts tightly until you put the hitch back on.

A dolly (so long as you have the proper ball on the tongue) may be the easiest thing because it takes a lot less space than a truck and you will have more room to maneuver. Or, you could find another house. When we were looking for a house, RV parking was very important. We have the parking, but getting the trailer in can be difficult. It depends how tired I am after driving home. Sometimes it takes a few minutes, other times, 20 minutes. I have so far only backed it in, but will probably try the front hitch on the Tundra next travel season.

Or you could wait for enough rain to float it up to the top. I hope you have enough space for us to park our trailer when we come to spend the summer. I want full hookups, cable and wifi, but no cats.

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Old 12-15-2014, 12:45 PM   #23
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If the trailer will indeed not go up the driveway, is there a storage place nearby?
I live in the flat Mississippi Delta and I scraped going into my driveway when I was experimenting with hitch settings.
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:14 PM   #24
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I wouldn't worry about selling the trailer on the west coast vs. the central location in the midwest. Airstreams are selling well on the west coast - the dealer group in OR, WA, ID and northern CA has sold a thousand trailers in the past three years. I cruise CL in the major markets, and AS listings don't stay up long, which leads me to believe they sell pretty quickly.

So bring the trailer out here, and if it won't work in the driveway, find a place to store it, or sell it here. Or...find a different house!
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:23 PM   #25
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You can do it, use drop hitch, down low to start, have some one watch, when near the top raise the hitch, easy...
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:30 PM   #26
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I wouldn't worry about selling the trailer on the west coast vs. the central location in the midwest. Airstreams are selling well on the west coast - the dealer group in OR, WA, ID and northern CA has sold a thousand trailers in the past three years. I cruise CL in the major markets, and AS listings don't stay up long, which leads me to believe they sell pretty quickly.

So bring the trailer out here, and if it won't work in the driveway, find a place to store it, or sell it here. Or...find a different house!
I think that is what we are going to do. We will keep the trailer and wait until we get there to decide if and how we can make it work. I will rent a storage spot for it, so we will have a fall back plan. If nothing else, it will be an expensive pet carrier to move our three cats and 7 parakeets in.
In the meantime I will get out there and take some accurate measurements.

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Old 12-15-2014, 01:32 PM   #27
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Buy yourself a Ford 8N tractor (made from 1947 to 1953), hitch on, and tow it up there. Leave the tractor attached. When you want to go on a trip, back it down into the street, and hitch onto the truck.




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Lynn, is that your tractor? I would think whatever is behind it should be your MG or trailer, but it looks red and has really big wheels. Nice looking tractor.

I hope you are Maria are well.

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