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Old 02-09-2011, 11:55 AM   #1
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Autobahn Mirrors - Anyone tried these?

I have seen these for a number of years. Apparently they are quite popular in Europe. Seems like it would work especially well on the right side. Besides the original version, that is fairly expensive, there are some knock offs that are cheaper but apparently don;t have as much adjustability and lesser optical quality.

I am also curious if they work in a truck such as my Silverado (as the windsheild sits rather far forward). BTW I mainly want one for my Jetta.
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Old 02-09-2011, 12:27 PM   #2
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Some states (MN is one) do not let you stick anything to the windshield. Although not highly enforced, it could result in a ticket here.

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Old 02-09-2011, 12:58 PM   #3
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Thanks, I understand that, although here in MD it's not a problem. Plus they can also be installed on the dash.
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:39 PM   #4
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This is pretty much how I adjust my mirrors. It works really well.
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cosmotini, I have used that method for years and agree that it works great, but it still leaves a few holes. However, I think more folks should try that method as it is way more effective than the mirror settings that most folks use (shooting down the side of the car. Of course it seems a lot of people dont' use their mirrors for anything more than looking at themselves these days (at least from my experience around here). Ever notice how many interior, rear view mirrors, are pointed towards the driver, it can be a bit scary, especially when that mascara brush is going full force at 75 mph. But that's another topic.

I have used stick on spot mirrors for years but, on my Jetta, the normal mirrors are very small and the spot mirror, even a small one, would take up a good bit of real estate. I have have also thought about the euro style aspheric mirrors, but they are expensive and I don't think they still offer the wide view of the spot mirrors. Plus most spot mirrors have crummy optics in my book.

I think I am going to order one of these mirrors and give it a whirl. I will try to update the thread when I have it install and have tried it.
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Old 02-10-2011, 06:56 PM   #6
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I have installed MULTIVEX replacement mirror glass on an SUV and a truck. Best thing I've ever used. Blind spots eliminated. Turning ones head is now a danger in comparison.

For my DODGE Ram I expect to use CIPA full replacement wit the 10X10 mirror. See also Schaefenacker [sp?].

The single problem, IMO, with multiple mirrors is the period od adjustment. I have had big trucks with up to [13] separate pieces of mirror, mounted. There are some moments of confusion when first presented with night driving, or, worse, a wet, reflective road and more than stock mirrors working headlights from several directions.

Pics and report as you problem-solve, please.

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Old 02-11-2011, 11:27 AM   #7
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Rednax, I was looking at those a couple of days ago. They seem similar to the European aspherical mirrors that can be retrofitted on the domestic versions of a number of cars (such as my Jetta). The problem with using them on my truck is that I would lose my in-mirror turn signal indicators, which I like and believe are a safety enhancement. Other than that, I'll bet they work pretty well.

I did order the Autobahn mirror and should have it in the next couple of days, I'll try to remember to post about it after I use it a few days.
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I respect your decision, but the wide-angle view afforded by MULTIVEX effectively cancels the mirror turn signal. Being able to see two-three lanes over practically next to you on in-town freeways while also being able to see the vehicle rear quarter (the quick peripheral glance) cannot be beat.

(LED turn/tail signals for TV & TT trump the mirror thingie, too.)

Despite the above I'd like to know (as would others) about the product you've ordered. Where mounted, and how used. As you can see I've no qualms about adding more available info. I bookmarked awhile back a guy who mounted a camera in 5'er rear, and the monitor is in the backseat against the truck rear glass so that the rendered-useless interior rearview now has a new job.

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i love it when products claim to be popular in europe, when...

1. they aren't

(i've never seen THIS product in use on the autobahn or at any of the big german vehicle factories)

2. even IF it is popular in europe, SO WHAT!

(so is not bathing and wearing the same clothes for weeks, till they reek with steeenk )
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still i remember when the girot's catalog first advertised them...

followed by a slew of other catalogs and enthusiast mags.

and during my early sucker daze i purchased one.

(1/2 price at the girot's outlet store)
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several problems

1. not all 'euro cars' have the same wind screen rake, wrap, side glass or A pillar design or dash clusters.

2. as a result positioning the magic'bahn mirror is not precise or uniform.

((believe it or not auto makers actually have engineers and safety experts involved in rearviewmirror placement))

3. with 3 standard mirrors (sides and center) one can train their eyes to continuously scan those 3 spots.

but the magic'bahn means adding another location INSIDE and away for the glass...

4. i found the magic'bahn to be a HUGE nuisance when driving, especially fast or in traffic...

5. and it was especially worthless at night or in the rain.

6. but it sure made a fun conversation piece...

rider..."what's that thing?"

me... "it's a special mirror used 4 driving on the autobahn"

rider... "oh yeah i read about those, they are VERY popular in europe"

me... "yes, i take it with me whenever i travel abroad"

rider... "can i use it to put on lipstick?"

me ....(rolls down window, tosses magic'bahn mirror in the drive through trash can)

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Old 02-12-2011, 07:59 AM   #10
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Well time will tell, I'll see how it works out. I will say that most spot mirrors (at least of the size we would put on a car) are fairly useless in the rain or at night. But if this mirror allows me a bit more view on what is going on beside me, even just during the day, it will be worth it. Having used stick on spots on many of my cars, I want to see how it compares.

Since my original post I looked at several auto oriented forums and folks seem to like them a lot. A few mentioned that they worked best on the left / drivers side, and were not as helpful on the right.

REDNAX, I hear ya on the view vs the signal, food for thought, but I do like having that extra signal.
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the magic'bahn mirror is only intended 4 use on the drivers side.

which MIGHT be left or right, right?

it's that whole euro thing again, remember.

and seriously it's a bad idea on all points that matter.
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no mention of year but imo ALL of the jettas from the last 10 years have good rear view mirror coverage.

as in no blind spots when properly adjusted.

the 'smaller' size (sq inches) annoys many drivers who equate BIGGER with better view.

some folks simply want MORE STUFF in the mirror or LARGER space for gazing aft.

however the best way to make a 5 lane change is to LOOK over yer shoulder, meybe.
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still IF you want a real product, positioned properly and PROVEN safe and effective,

there are 2 choices...

1. wide angle full view convex replacements for the main/center mirror like this...

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the longacre brand is most common,

and typically mounts to the roll cage and provides a narrow but wide view...

((u do have a roll cage in the jetta right? they are very popular in europe now))

2. or the more traditional rally car mirror which is referred to by the original brand name wink...

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the winks come in 3, 4 or 5 panel designs and are very effective...

here's how it looks in a typical 'dub...

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either of these products and a few other options will be found on MOST of the rally car vendor sites...

NONE of which will be selling magic'bahn mirrors.

the wink style mirrors are also used on golf carts...

but IF you are planning to drive your golf cart on the autobahn,

there is probably a special mirror that's popular on euro'golf carts...



guuuugle any of the key terms from this post and u will find rally/race vendors with this stuff.
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4 the truck, these work very nicely IF u can find/fab an adapter for the bow tie brackets...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f238...uty-21799.html

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Old 02-12-2011, 07:16 PM   #12
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Yep, I remember the wink mirror from years gone by. Seemed like a good concept.
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Only potential drawback for any of these would be the inability to "turn it off" at night, what with irritating headlights from behind.

I'd try every JCWhitney gizmo out there and not worry over it. They're cheap.

An old TX DPS trooper I know still equips his vehicles with a second interior rearview mirror just below, and to the side, of the first. Moves it around to suit what he's up to that day.
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